QF F Vs AA
#31
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However in this instance, I'll have to disagree, as the Airbus A380 is unbelievably quiet inside the cabin compared to previous generation aircraft. That, along with the lower cabin altitude during flight, make a huge difference to the flying experience and post flight recovery. The cabin altitude is replicated on the Boeing 787 and Airbus A350, but I still think the A380 is quieter inside. It's not something you'd need to strain to notice either, it's quite obvious.
A380, A350 and B787 are 2+ decades ahead in cabin technology compared to a B777. The nicest seat in the world and swishest service doesn't alter that I feel most jetlagged coming off a B777 compared to the others. I'll even feel better coming off Premium Economy on an A380 than Business in a B777.
#32
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+1. Did you mean lower cabin pressure and / or higher humidity in the newer jets?
A380, A350 and B787 are 2+ decades ahead in cabin technology compared to a B777. The nicest seat in the world and swishest service doesn't alter that I feel most jetlagged coming off a B777 compared to the others. I'll even feel better coming off Premium Economy on an A380 than Business in a B777.
A380, A350 and B787 are 2+ decades ahead in cabin technology compared to a B777. The nicest seat in the world and swishest service doesn't alter that I feel most jetlagged coming off a B777 compared to the others. I'll even feel better coming off Premium Economy on an A380 than Business in a B777.
I wish I could feel the difference and enjoy the better quality of the newer planes but I just dont feel any difference.
#33
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QF cancelled my flight. On the day of !!! What the hec like seriously. I don’t even know what to do now. Do I call AA or QF. AA I know won’t help and just put me on a diff QF flight. QF has control of the ticket shouldn’t they be able to move me ?? Hec they send me a text just now they moved me to DL’s flight tonite. And get this it’s in PE. I wouldn’t fly it even if it was in D1. This isn’t what I paid for.
I think one of ya all mentioned their operational issues above. But the same day. On a route w just 2 x a day. Also QF 11 flew so now what happens w that plane since there is no QF12?
Now I have to rework all this and change my CA flight inside Oz and dealing w VA is the absolute worst.
This really stinks .
I think one of ya all mentioned their operational issues above. But the same day. On a route w just 2 x a day. Also QF 11 flew so now what happens w that plane since there is no QF12?
Now I have to rework all this and change my CA flight inside Oz and dealing w VA is the absolute worst.
This really stinks .
#34
Join Date: Jun 2022
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So sorry to hear about this. AA and QF are showing at least 1 seat each for their respective flights tomorrow from LA to Sydney and if I were you I'd try and call AA (or use chat) and get one of those seats asap. Definitely a bummer, hopefully you get something figured out without too much hassle.
#35
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Sorry to hear. Are you at the airport? Given QFs poor phone service, it may be best to go to the airport during the bank of QF flights and see what if anything they can do. Not sure if also going to AA as it is an AA ticket will help? Only as it is day of travel and airport usually has the best rebooking options.
and as above calling AA is of course another option if they can find availability (award)
I am sure someone else can provide more specific advice, and whether any DOT regs come in.
and as above calling AA is of course another option if they can find availability (award)
I am sure someone else can provide more specific advice, and whether any DOT regs come in.
#36
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So sorry to hear about this. AA and QF are showing at least 1 seat each for their respective flights tomorrow from LA to Sydney and if I were you I'd try and call AA (or use chat) and get one of those seats asap. Definitely a bummer, hopefully you get something figured out without too much hassle.
Why would QF12 be cancelled if QF11 left and arrived?
#37
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Could be a number of reasons unfortunately... deferred maintenance, LAX specific operations, crew limitations, etc.
#38
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#39
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#40
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There are other services to Australia from LAX though. Anyway, what was the outcome of your calls?
#42
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QF cancelled my flight. On the day of !!! What the hec like seriously. I don’t even know what to do now. Do I call AA or QF. AA I know won’t help and just put me on a diff QF flight. QF has control of the ticket shouldn’t they be able to move me ?? Hec they send me a text just now they moved me to DL’s flight tonite. And get this it’s in PE. I wouldn’t fly it even if it was in D1. This isn’t what I paid for.
I think one of ya all mentioned their operational issues above. But the same day. On a route w just 2 x a day. Also QF 11 flew so now what happens w that plane since there is no QF12?
Now I have to rework all this and change my CA flight inside Oz and dealing w VA is the absolute worst.
This really stinks .
I think one of ya all mentioned their operational issues above. But the same day. On a route w just 2 x a day. Also QF 11 flew so now what happens w that plane since there is no QF12?
Now I have to rework all this and change my CA flight inside Oz and dealing w VA is the absolute worst.
This really stinks .
If you call QF, there is a good chance that it will tell you to talk to AA since AA issued the ticket
You could just gamble and turn up at the airport and see what happens
Given that it is reported that there is an award seat available in business class on AA, I would start with AA since , if this is the case, the worst case would seem to be able to travel in business class. I would do this before any other displaced passenger grabs it
What is so bad about dealing with VA? I think that you should be able to make changes online with it
#43
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I am still on hold with AA, 2 hours and 20 min. This is outrageous. I cant get anything done either as far as planning other stuff for the trip, fixing other flights, hotels, etc. The hold up is that QF put me on the DL flight tonight so instead of releasing it or moving me to a QF flight AA is now having to deal with OW and other help desks and get me off the DL flight. This is beyond annoying. They will let me change it to any QF flight in F though that has a seat (not an AA showing award seat but just any open seat) within 7 days. There is not one Friday or Saturday but there is one Sunday however I think I am going to go to the full 7 out and go next Thursday as travelling Thurs to a Sun gets me a 10 day trip with only 1 week of work missed. The issue now is will I be able to get a return home on AA for a web special. This is so stressful and annoying and frustrating.
VA customer service puts you on hold 9 x in the same call to do the easiest things. Never experienced anything like that. I will try to change online with them one I get this sorted out.
The AA agent is really cool in fact I asked if she could move me to QF F return b/c there is the web special in J tonight on AA but she said she would try and did but even spoke to the help desk on that but they wont let me run the QF F award in the other direction.
So for now I am leaving 1 week from tonight but its not official yet. In the QF app I see still DL tonight but I do see the 4/27 flight AA put me on also. I feel like I have lost my entire day. I could be at the beach.
VA customer service puts you on hold 9 x in the same call to do the easiest things. Never experienced anything like that. I will try to change online with them one I get this sorted out.
The AA agent is really cool in fact I asked if she could move me to QF F return b/c there is the web special in J tonight on AA but she said she would try and did but even spoke to the help desk on that but they wont let me run the QF F award in the other direction.
So for now I am leaving 1 week from tonight but its not official yet. In the QF app I see still DL tonight but I do see the 4/27 flight AA put me on also. I feel like I have lost my entire day. I could be at the beach.
#44
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If QF has rebooked you onto the DL flight, then you should be ok - why are you trying to mess with that which QF has already fixed? Departing 1 hour earlier would have just meant that any onward flights on VA could remain unchanged
It seems that the problem was fixed by Qantas and you could still have travelled as planned
It seems that the problem was fixed by Qantas and you could still have travelled as planned
#45
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If QF has rebooked you onto the DL flight, then you should be ok - why are you trying to mess with that which QF has already fixed? Departing 1 hour earlier would have just meant that any onward flights on VA could remain unchanged
It seems that the problem was fixed by Qantas and you could still have travelled as planned
It seems that the problem was fixed by Qantas and you could still have travelled as planned
It would have been an even 110K for DL. No thank you.