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stephem Dec 8, 2018 8:50 am


Originally Posted by londonexpert (Post 30512451)
Just wondered can we build in stopovers in this fare? Fare rules said ok, but I can't get ITA to work.

I think the MPM is 10548

So don't think can route through JFK??

Also can we take the AA codeshare on JL for trans pacific sectors or just AA?

The fare rules may say stopovers allowed but scroll down and you will see there are no HIP exceptions, so the stopover will cause a HiP check and increase the fare, possibly significantly.

As for MPM, you can exceed it, but it will result in a surchage (sliding scale depending on % you exceed MPM).

On routings, fare rules i looked at said 1 xfer in area 3, and 3 xfers in area 1.

stephem Dec 8, 2018 8:53 am

Also available for SJD for west coasters. SJD-LAX-SJD can be had for cheap.

londonexpert Dec 8, 2018 8:59 am


Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30512612)


The fare rules may say stopovers allowed but scroll down and you will see there are no HIP exceptions, so the stopover will cause a HiP check and increase the fare, possibly significantly.

As for MPM, you can exceed it, but it will result in a surchage (sliding scale depending on % you exceed MPM).

On routings, fare rules i looked at said 1 xfer in area 3, and 3 xfers in area 1.

Thanks - This is the point I am always a bit confused on the HIP check.

is there some reference I can check to understand it more?

Pochama Dec 8, 2018 9:07 am


Originally Posted by tango3 (Post 30512397)
I found a routing to get around 800TP from this at US$1.9k. Is that the max you can extract from this fare?

What's the routing?

edit: nvm figured it out. HKG-NRT-LAX-JFK-DFW-CUN r/t would give exactly 800.

londonexpert Dec 8, 2018 9:07 am


Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30512612)


The fare rules may say stopovers allowed but scroll down and you will see there are no HIP exceptions, so the stopover will cause a HiP check and increase the fare, possibly significantly.

As for MPM, you can exceed it, but it will result in a surchage (sliding scale depending on % you exceed MPM).

On routings, fare rules i looked at said 1 xfer in area 3, and 3 xfers in area 1.


Thanks - I understand now.

If I do HKG-NRT-DFW-MEX. And if NRT-MEX is more expensive than HKG-MEX then I need to pay the higher fare as part of HIP.

I guess I can really max it out and do: HKG-KIX-FUK-CTS-NRT (each within 24 hours) and then fly to the US?

stephem Dec 8, 2018 9:08 am


Originally Posted by londonexpert (Post 30512635)
Thanks - This is the point I am always a bit confused on the HIP check.

is there some reference I can check to understand it more?

HIP stands for Higher Intermediate Point and just means that the fare to some intermediate point on the way to your destination is different (most likely higher) and so you have to pay that higher intermediate fare if you want to stop in that intermediate location. For this fare, the HKG-DFW is much more than this fare, if you want to stop in DFW then you will pay a HIP charge, equivalent to the difference between this fare and the HKG-DFW.

There are times when the HIP charge is still a good deal. I’ve paid a slight additional HIP to get a very low cost LAX-JFK roundtrip on AAs 32t.

stephem Dec 8, 2018 9:11 am


Originally Posted by londonexpert (Post 30512651)
I guess I can really max it out and do: HKG-KIX-FUK-CTS-NRT (each within 24 hours) and then fly to the US?

The fare only allows one transfer in Area 3 so you cannot do this. But now you see why we covet the few fares that are filed with no transfer limit, even if there is a HIP check.

londonexpert Dec 8, 2018 9:17 am


Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30512612)


The fare rules may say stopovers allowed but scroll down and you will see there are no HIP exceptions, so the stopover will cause a HiP check and increase the fare, possibly significantly.

As for MPM, you can exceed it, but it will result in a surchage (sliding scale depending on % you exceed MPM).

On routings, fare rules i looked at said 1 xfer in area 3, and 3 xfers in area 1.


Originally Posted by stephem (Post 30512663)


The fare only allows one transfer in Area 3 so you cannot do this. But now you see why we covet the few fares that are filed with no transfer limit, even if there is a HIP check.

Thanks!! Yes the Transit restrictions trumps the unlimited Stopover.

For a HKG-NRT-DFW-MEX
So a HIP check will need to be performed on
HKG-DFW
HKG-NRT
NRT-DFW
NRT-MEX
If any point is more expensive than HKG-DFW, than the HIP surcharge will be applicable.

Just wondered other than Mexico, are there any other "americas" cities these AA fares are applicable?

londonexpert Dec 8, 2018 9:31 am


Originally Posted by Unionruler (Post 30512508)
Yeah. Although it has to be said that to us mileage runners, CN/HK are pretty much the same thing, but to laypersons as well as in terms of origin and destination theory, CN and HK are quite different markets.

HKG is much easier as not visa restriction for most travellers and the airport is designed well for transits

hellointer Dec 8, 2018 9:33 am

Is there any more location can select? Just for more AS tie miles if possbile only intra Asia can via JL airline? ....

stageworks Dec 8, 2018 12:09 pm

Just booked HKG-LAX-JFK-MIA-CUN-MIA-JFK-LAX-HKG - FOR $1936 - used EVIP's to F and cleared. This will be a nice ride.

Bonaventure Dec 8, 2018 12:43 pm

Is the only way to boost EQD flying intra-Asia? Someone mentioned that TPAC must be AA coded and AA metal?

Gino Troian Dec 8, 2018 12:43 pm

Great fare ^

smilee Dec 8, 2018 12:45 pm

How do you book. When I use the Google Flights link, it shows the fare, but if I go to make the purchase I get the usual

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When I search aa.com, I don't see this fare available. Is it still there?

BigMouthStrikesAgain Dec 8, 2018 1:35 pm

Stageworks,
how did you get that routing? I can’t replicate the JFK part on GF or AA.com!

anyone have a guess as to how many miles this would credit to AA and or AS with no status on either airline?

thanks!


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