Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm

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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
Post as much detail as possible about the First/Business fare, including: fare class, fare basis, one-way/round-trip, sales channel, sample dates and total price (including taxes).
When posting fare rules, please enclose them in a [COÐE][/COÐE] block. Note the use of the eth (Ð) instead of a capital D here to prevent the forum software from trying to insert an actual block. Be sure you use the capital D.
Refrain from posting fare requests or engaging in off topic debates such as fare trends, specific aircraft configuration or visa requirements
The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
Please include important information such as operating airline, fare classes, city pairs, etc. in the body of your post rather than the post title field as it is not visible to those reading FT on mobile devices. This is not the "trick it" thread. Please do not speak in code.
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Last but not least: don't call the airline!

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Oct 1, 2014, 5:47 pm

#2896

Global321

Join Date: Sep 2009

Location: Global

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JW76

Ah, no, they can't. Could they arbitrarily exclude homosexuals, or Jews? What about African Americans? One of their top lobbying goals is fighting against age discrimination. Discriminating against younger members would be both illegal and irrational for them.

If they are a private club, they can discriminate. As a private club, they can refuse membership to anyone based on any criteria they want. It is a constitutional right of freedom of association.

If they are considered a public club, then the rules change a bit. I am not sure where AARP falls.

Augusta Golf Club did not allow women in until recently. Even then, it was their choice to allow woman.

Curves for Women, The Boy Scouts, Churches, etc.

I am not saying it is right, it is just a fact.
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Just looked at the website...

With respect JW76, you are wrong. AARP does discriminate based on age. From their website... "Anyone 50 or over can get all the great benefits of membership in AARP for only $16 a year. "

Last edited by Global321; Oct 1, 2014 at 5:50 pm Reason: More information from AARP

Oct 1, 2014, 6:20 pm

#2897

skunker

Join Date: May 2006

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JW76

Actually, in the US age discrimination only occurs after 40. You cannot file an age based EEO compliant if you are under 40.
http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/age.cfm
http://www.aarp.org/work/employee-ri...act_sheet.html

Oct 1, 2014, 6:22 pm

#2898

PV_Premier

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It would be amazing if we started posting fares again and not so much the merits of how aarp manages their membership roll...

Oct 1, 2014, 6:28 pm

#2899

anandrag

Join Date: Aug 2001

Location: NY

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PV_Premier

It would be amazing if we started posting fares again and not so much the merits of how aarp manages their membership roll...

^^^

Oct 1, 2014, 10:03 pm

#2900

x1achilles

Join Date: Mar 2005

Location: The Castro, San Francisco, California

Programs: UA, DL, AA, Aegean Air, Cal Alumni (go Bears!)

Posts: 594

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxswanson

Anyone knows if the one-world J sale is working from Europe to US. Desperately need a J ticket from Germany to SFO.

There are almost never low or good fares if you are desperate. Desperate is what the airlines want you to be. The best fares require patience and flexibility to be able to go or not go. Good luck though.

Oct 1, 2014, 10:16 pm

#2901

mczlaw

Join Date: Nov 2008

Location: Portland, Oregon, USA

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Good Deal Premium Fares 2014

So true.

Oct 1, 2014, 11:23 pm

#2902

Miggles

Join Date: Dec 2002

Location: Texas

Posts: 640

Quote:

Originally Posted by PV_Premier

UA:
LAX-IAD-CHS $840 (8200ish PQMs with 500 mins and COS bonus)

Does this really count, given that there is no premium cabin for IAD-CHS (which is actually 2 RJ flights: IAD-EWR-CHS)? I would be cautious of such a mileage run on UA RJ's due to both comfort and reliability issues.

Oct 2, 2014, 12:22 am

#2903

orbitmic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PV_Premier

It would be amazing if we started posting fares again and not so much the merits of how aarp manages their membership roll...

^^^ +1

Oct 2, 2014, 2:11 am

#2904

chris1979

Join Date: Apr 2005

Location: London

Programs: BA Lifetime Gold & GGL & CCR, HH Diam, Bonvoy Titanium, IHG Spire, Tastecard

Posts: 7,549

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxswanson

Thanks, where can I find these fare? Sorry for newbie question.

as others have said, ITA is the best starting point.

details of those fares are here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23604458-post4291.html

(bottom flight: CPH - LAX ~£1,200/£1,300 ish)

and lots of discussion on good BA deals here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...hread-287.html

and in a similar BA Sales Thread (have a look on the BAEC forum)

Oct 2, 2014, 3:25 am

#2905

kshastry

Join Date: May 2003

Posts: 558

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashkale

EY has some interesting Z fares from India, under ZHOT2MEY, e.g. BKK for US$560 AI, works to under 6CPM, and with the double tier miles promo, 3 of these could help renew Gold.

Looks like this fare is now available at much higher rate. Gone are USD 500~ trips. Its nearly USD 900 now for return trip (still a good value IMHO). Good thing is it is available over new year holiday period.

How many of you bought this?

Oct 2, 2014, 7:47 am

#2906

PV_Premier

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Miggles

Cr700 is available IAD to CHS. I was looking at mid October dates on google flights.

Oct 2, 2014, 7:57 am

#2907

AHO

Join Date: Sep 2001

Location: Sweden

Posts: 2,044

[Business class] Tokyo-Europa R/T, Etihad Airways, 1.845 USD / 1.460 EUR incl. taxes

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHO

Etihad Airways Business class campaign out of Tokyo.
Fare from Nagoya is + 30.000 JPY.
Buy latest 2014-SEP-30
The fare is bookable on Etihad Airways Japanese website.
http://www.etihad.com/ja-jp/deals/de...motion_id=6144

[Business class] Tokyo-Europa R/T, Etihad Airways, 1.565 USD / 1.220 EUR incl. taxes

NRT-some EY destinations in Europe R/T
Airlines: Etihad Airways (EY)
Cabin class: Business
Booking class: Z
Fare basis: ZHOTJP
Fare: 120.000 JPY + tax ca 50.000 JPY and up, total from ca 1.565 USD / 1.220 EUR incl. taxes
The fare is available to following cities.

Amsterdam
Berlin
Brussels
Dublin
Düsseldorf
Frankfurt
Genèva
Istanbul
Moscow
München
Manchester
Milano
Roma
Wien

Advance purchase: 1 day
Min/Max stay: 2 days / 1 month
Buy latest: 2014-SEP-30
Valid for departure: --
Stopover: Up to 2 free stopover are allowed in Beijing/Abu Dhabi. One in each direction.
Child discount: 15% discount from the base fare
Refund: No
Rebooking: No
Routing e.g. Tokyo-(EY)-Abu Dhabi-(EY)-some EY destinations in Europe

Etihad Airways extended the Business class campaign from Japan.
They have increased the price with 30.000 JPY but now the ticket is re-bookable against a fee (10.000 JPY).
Nagoya has got same prices as Tokyo this time.

Buy latest 2014-NOV-30
The fare is bookable on Etihad Airways Japanese website.
http://www.etihad.com/ja-jp/

[Business class] Tokyo-Europa R/T, Etihad Airways, 1.845 USD / 1.460 EUR incl. taxes

NRT/NGO-some EY destinations in Europe R/T
Airlines: Etihad Airways (EY)
Cabin class: Business
Booking class: Z
Fare basis: ZHOTJP
Fare: 150.000 JPY + tax ca 50.000 JPY and up, total from ca 1.845 USD / 1.460 EUR incl. taxes
The fare is available to following cities.

Amsterdam
Berlin
Brussels
Dublin
Düsseldorf
Frankfurt
Genèva
Istanbul
Moscow
München
Manchester
Milano
Roma

Advance purchase: 1 day
Min/Max stay: 2 days / 1 month
Buy latest: 2014-NOV-30
Valid for departure: --
Stopover: Up to 2 free stopover are allowed in Beijing/Abu Dhabi. One in each direction.
Child discount: 15% discount from the base fare
Refund: No
Rebooking: Yes, against 10.000 JPY each time
Routing e.g. Tokyo-(EY)-Abu Dhabi-(EY)-some EY destinations in Europe

You can also fly to other European cities than abovementioned cities by paying +30.000 JPY (+taxes).

Oct 2, 2014, 12:31 pm

#2908

purch

Join Date: Jun 2014

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Posts: 169

FRA-JNB LH (P) Dec, Mar & July EUR2230

Not sure if this has been posted before, but this is quite a good fare for a Europe-JNB non-stop (just got one myself). Still one or two possibilities around Christmas, quite a bit in March, and lots in July. LH website shows FRA-JNB with new business class daily through the last weeks of Nov, so hopefully it stays that way.

Fare: PRNDE

Actual departure dates:
19DEC 14 THROUGH 01JAN 15
30MAR 15 THROUGH 11APR 15
01JUL 15 THROUGH 31AUG 15
19DEC 15 THROUGH 01JAN 16

Min stay: 6 days
Max stay: 1 month
Advance purchase: 60 days
Booking class: P
Price: EUR2230
Non-changeable
Refundable for EUR400

Oct 2, 2014, 5:52 pm

#2909

cfischer

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VS/AA/BA/others: BOS et al. to AMS $2k a/i no min through EOS

retaliation for the MAD/HEL fares on ST now attack on ST hubs ... but VS is participating (haven't seen this posted) so you can get BOS-LHR-AMS r/t for $2k a.i. no min ^ through EOS with 150% credit to DL. $956 base fare for those interested in trick-it games.

Oct 2, 2014, 5:54 pm

#2910

PV_Premier

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cfischer

retaliation for the MAD/HEL fares on ST now attack on ST hubs ... but VS is participating (haven't seen this posted) so you can get BOS-LHR-AMS for $2k a.i. no min ^ through EOS with 150% credit to DL.

prices to LIN are even better