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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by Bart
I think they would agree with you.

Theoretically, they're supposed to reveal weaknesses we're supposed to improve through training.

Theoretically.

If the Red Teams get W.E.I.'s through security, they are revealing a weakness.

Failure is Failure.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by daw617
But Red Teams aren't supposed to do a damn thing for you, are they? They're supposed to test whether the system as a whole is working, and to proactively identify potential vulnerabilities in the system before those vulnerabilities are exploited by bad guys. They're not intended to directly help trainers; that's not their primary mission.
Originally Posted by Bart
Theoretically, they're supposed to reveal weaknesses we're supposed to improve through training.
Originally Posted by Tom M.
If the Red Teams get W.E.I.'s through security, they are revealing a weakness.
But where, exactly, is the responsibility for that weakness? Sometimes, the weakness is with an individual screener; at that point, the correction (either redemptive or punitive) should be applied to that individual screener. Sometimes, the weakness is with the system, not the players; for example, the Red Team gets a weapon through using known gaps in the system. At that point, disciplining the individual screener is most likely ineffective; you'd be holding a screener responsible for a failure they weren't trained to prevent.

I don't know anything about Red Teams, so I don't know what they're trying to do. But if the purpose of the Red Team is to try to circumvent security procedures ... well, we know that can be done very easily. Heck, a reporter and a self-taught security expert proved it last November.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 8:32 am
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I agree with your post.

The bottom line is security can easily be circumvented, what is the purpose of the TSA?
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
The bottom line is security can easily be circumvented, what is the purpose of the TSA?
1. Post 9/11 'we're doing everything we can to prevent another 9/11.'
2. The sheeple actually think TSA is effective.
3. Enhancing profits for water sales on the concourse side of security.
4. Bothering frequent fliers with inane, ineffective, and annoying processes.
5. Humiliating passengers who can't effectively retaliate.
6. Enhancing the pockets of TSOs who steal from poorly secured passenger's luggage.
7. Massive work fair.
8. Provides a place for those on a power trip to exercise their authority.
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by AngryMiller
1. Post 9/11 'we're doing everything we can to prevent another 9/11.'
2. The sheeple actually think TSA is effective.
3. Enhancing profits for water sales on the concourse side of security.
4. Bothering frequent fliers with inane, ineffective, and annoying processes.
5. Humiliating passengers who can't effectively retaliate.
6. Enhancing the pockets of TSOs who steal from poorly secured passenger's luggage.
7. Massive work fair.
8. Provides a place for those on a power trip to exercise their authority.
9. Used up a lot of blue fabric.
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