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N965VJ Aug 28, 2009 8:08 am

TSA ponders the 'statistical significance' of its covert testing program
 

TSA ponders the 'statistical significance' of its covert testing program

GSNMagazine.com
August 27th, 2009

The Transportation Security Administration is wondering whether the nationwide covert testing its does at airports across the country – by having its own staff members try to smuggle "threat items" past airport checkpoint security personnel – generates statistically significant results that can logically be applied at individual airports.

In other words, do the "national pass rates" it develops for checkpoint and checked baggage personnel provide a reasonable measure of success that can appropriately be used at specific airports?
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Mr. Gel-pack Aug 28, 2009 10:49 am

Hah.

So the testing program isn't currently designed well enough to evaluate individual airports? What a surprise. Not statistically significant = Security Theatre.

The statistics of such low rate event detection systems make it very difficult to design or even evaluate such systems, and it seems like TSAs ad-hoc covert testing system is exposed as another layer of smoke and mirrors in TSA's security theatre.

From the article:


• Determine whether TSA's existing testing framework and its resulting data can achieve airport-level – or only national-level -- statistical significance.

If your measurement system isn't designed to provide statistically significant results, it isn't useful for measuring. Deming would be embarassed for TSA.

If the covert testing process isn't statistically significant for national, airport, (or individual) measurement, what is TSA using it for? Training and motivating (torturing?) its workers?

(A real red team would set of its fake bombs in the checkpoint line, rather than use testers with metal knees to guarantee secondaries. )

goalie Aug 28, 2009 10:57 am


The Transportation Security Administration is wondering whether the nationwide covert testing its does at airports across the country...generates statistically significant results that can logically be applied at individual airports.
i think they mean, "since we've failed so many open book (i.e. announced) tests and the numbers make us look bad", maybe we should discontinue the program

GoingAway Aug 28, 2009 11:12 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 12296482)
i think they mean, "since we've failed so many open book (i.e. announced) tests and the numbers make us look bad", maybe we should discontinue the program

I definitely agree that their purpose here is in line with your thoughts.

We can't pass our own test, so it must not be a good test. Let's put a new one in place that we'll call "statistically" relevant and then pat ourselves on the back that we can pass it -- that its useless to verifying anything related to security will be irrelevant, of course

DevilDog438 Aug 28, 2009 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by GoingAway (Post 12296559)
I definitely agree that their purpose here is in line with your thoughts.

We can't pass our own test, so it must not be a good test. Let's put a new one in place that we'll call "statistically" relevant and then pat ourselves on the back that we can pass it -- that its useless to verifying anything related to security will be irrelevant, of course

My bet is that they will just let the issue sunset...

They will expire the current process, since it is not statistically relevant, then claim that it is too expensive to come up with a statistically relevant testing regimen and just not test anymore.

Superguy Aug 28, 2009 8:11 pm

Now if only someone would really evaluate the statistical significane of TSA in general.

I think we know how that would turn out ... I'd even go up to 99% certainty. :D

RadioGirl Aug 29, 2009 1:54 am


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 12298747)
Now if only someone would really evaluate the statistical significane of TSA in general.

I think we know how that would turn out ... I'd even go up to 99% certainty. :D

+1

OTOH, there's a tiny glimmer of self-awareness in this statement:

To help it wrestle with this statistical quandary, TSA is asking external organizations, "with applied statistics and quantitative science expertise," whether they have the capability...
IOW, the "3=3.4 brigade" are not up to the job ("statistical quandary" - I love it! :D) , and they need a B+ math major from the local community college. Frankly, I'm surprised Francine hasn't just googled "statistical significance". ;)

IslandBased Aug 29, 2009 2:20 am

I'm trying to put "significance" and "TSA" in the same thought, all I can picture is trash bins full of harmless stuff. :rolleyes:

Wally Bird Aug 29, 2009 9:55 am


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 12299540)
...external organizations, "with applied statistics and quantitative science expertise...

A cynic might suspect these "external organizations" pointed out the significance or otherwise to start with. Or maybe someone at TSA has a (cough) friend working there.

Government money = trough.

Georgia Peach Aug 29, 2009 5:48 pm

They know it's true because they provided the statistics. :p

Bart Aug 30, 2009 7:41 am

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Tom M. Aug 30, 2009 7:55 am

Bart,

Maybe there is a difference between "training test" designed to improve performance and "proficiency test" designed to determine if our security is actually working.

The entire reason we have the TSA is to prevent W.E.I from getting on an airplane.

The Red Teams test that fundamental. It is not a "political level report card" It is testing if all the money and effort is effective.

Bart Aug 30, 2009 8:11 am

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Tom M. Aug 30, 2009 8:18 am


Originally Posted by Bart (Post 12303348)
Call me skeptical. It's like the old Army Inspector General saying, "we're here to help, this is a courtesy inspection."

I do understand the Red Team logic. Hell, I used to run them all the time against high-profile targets. The cynic in me sees the TSA version as just political tools that don't offer much help to the trainer-on-the-ground or the local FSD, for that matter. However, I also understand that Red Teams will never go away. They're political now. Any Congresscritter who signs off on doing away with them would be portrayed as being soft on security.

I'm just responding to the article that TSA is apparently pondering the statistical significance of its testing program. Well, all I have to say is that TSA headquarters painted itself into this mess.

Call me skeptical. The cynic in me sees those that call these tests "political" are doing so as an excuse to rationalize failures.

The fundamental question is "is the TSA really keeping us safer, or are we just spending money on security theater"

Strong, hard, and frequent testing is needed. If the results show frequent failures, we must take a hard look at what we are doing and if money and effort could be better spent.

Bart Aug 30, 2009 10:19 am

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