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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
Some guesstimates can be made about TSORon.

Served in the Air Force for 13 some odd years if I recall what he has posted. Was an MP. Left the military service.


Now why would someone check out at that point? How about high year tenure of 14 years if a person does not promote to E-6 or higher.

Most people who enlist in the service do so right out of high school. Some may obtain additional education and degrees during a career. Most do not.

Just a guess but TSORon could certainly confirm or deny such since he rails about others education.
Wondered the same, but was afraid the post would disappear. At the 13 year point a person would usually be headed for a full twenty to make it a career. That may be a post that Ron will regret having ever made.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'll go one further: either we did our job at the checkpoint or we did not. The focus must remain at the checkpoint. Screening anywhere else beyond the checkpoint is counterproductive. We're taking manpower away from the checkpoint where it is needed most in order to re-screen passengers at the gates.

As for your scenario, I don't see that happening unless someone bypasses the security checkpoint. And that makes it a different scenario involving different players.
could you then please drop a dime with that same logic and argue in favor of eliminating the blue shirting at the gates?
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm trying to figure out how this is yours or anyone else's business.
Ron has invited the scrutiny by questioning the level of education of other posters, and his practice or resorting to insults when challenged.

You reap what you sow.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm trying to figure out how this is yours or anyone else's business. Some of the forum members in here lament over the requirement to present a photo ID as if it were the end of freedom and liberty yet seem to have no problem speculating into what is clearly a private matter just because TSORon is a TSA employee. How hypocritical! How truly stupid! Talk about lack of principles!
Do you mean, sort of along the lines of how TSORon has challenged and insulted me regarding my legal background? Or the way that he raised the issue of education of those who disagreed with him?

Bart, you and I disagree a lot, but you're always civil and respectful. One thing I've learned from extensive world travel: treat people with respect and they treat you with respect. When, in a thread like this, people specifically identify themselves as working for TSA, mutual respect becomes particularly important. I have no particular interest in TSORon's background, and have never asked him about it. However, he's the one who put it on the table.
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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm trying to figure out how this is yours or anyone else's business. Some of the forum members in here lament over the requirement to present a photo ID as if it were the end of freedom and liberty yet seem to have no problem speculating into what is clearly a private matter just because TSORon is a TSA employee. How hypocritical! How truly stupid! Talk about lack of principles!

If you're taking this personally, pilgrim, it is meant to be personal. You crossed a line, and I'm calling you out on it.

If you had any shred of integrity, you'd come back and edit out your post and just drop the subject.

I'm not holding my breath.
Since Ron started posting here he has used a variety of excuses when backed into a corner with the incorrect/invalid statements he makes. At first he claimed he was being trolled or the rules had changed. Currently he claims we don't have the education/intelligence to understand certain things so he doesn't have to answer anything he is challenged on. He has yet to explain what his educational training/background is.

He can either put up or shut up. I would say the analysis of his education based on his probable military service is accurate, unless Ron wants to prove otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Bart
Don't even try it, mac. If you don't know that the line has been crossed, then it's pointless to continue.
Hasn't Ron crossed the line as well?
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Hasn't Ron crossed the line as well?
No, only the peasants can cross lines.
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm trying to figure out how this is yours or anyone else's business. Some of the forum members in here lament over the requirement to present a photo ID as if it were the end of freedom and liberty yet seem to have no problem speculating into what is clearly a private matter just because TSORon is a TSA employee. How hypocritical! How truly stupid! Talk about lack of principles!

If you're taking this personally, pilgrim, it is meant to be personal. You crossed a line, and I'm calling you out on it.

If you had any shred of integrity, you'd come back and edit out your post and just drop the subject.

I'm not holding my breath.
Give me a break Mr Public Servant

Ronnie crossed that line...actually Ronnie drew the line then crossed it...in plenty of posts.

He made the comment to me and I called him on it; aside from the fact he failed and fails to answer basic, direct, non SSI questions. His cut and paste from non-sequitur topics is not an answer.

None of us will drop the subject when Ron brings it up and acts as if he has some sort of expertise in the matter, which so far, he has shown he does not.

Ron's background is suspect which is gleened from his public posts and private PMs to me and others.

Ron opened the door; let him be a big boy and answer for it.

If you have a problem with it move on.

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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 8:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm trying to figure out how this is yours or anyone else's business. Some of the forum members in here lament over the requirement to present a photo ID as if it were the end of freedom and liberty yet seem to have no problem speculating into what is clearly a private matter just because TSORon is a TSA employee. How hypocritical! How truly stupid! Talk about lack of principles!

If you're taking this personally, pilgrim, it is meant to be personal. You crossed a line, and I'm calling you out on it.

If you had any shred of integrity, you'd come back and edit out your post and just drop the subject.

I'm not holding my breath.

TSORon is the person who called themselves a "Security Expert".

TSORon has questioned others education.

I didn't ask TSORon to post anything of a personal nature.

Don't think I have any reason to edit anything.

If I was a TSO Trainer I think I would be more concerned about not caring about poorly trained TSO's.

I agree don't hold your breath, you would die!

Just saying Bart!

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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm trying to figure out how this is yours or anyone else's business. Some of the forum members in here lament over the requirement to present a photo ID as if it were the end of freedom and liberty yet seem to have no problem speculating into what is clearly a private matter just because TSORon is a TSA employee.
Do you know one sure-fire way to keep people from discussing one's private matters on a public message board? Not talking about them on a public message board in the first place.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 4:36 am
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Originally Posted by Bart
Don't even try it, mac. If you don't know that the line has been crossed, then it's pointless to continue.
This is exactly the type of response that Ron posts to avoid answering a question he knows he can't win.

Once again when Ron tells us we don't have the education to understand something its fine, but when we question what his education is no answer is required. Being ex-military is not a free pass in life.
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