Why do they screen everyone?
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Think about this: FT has as its primary membership frequent fliers -- people who have to interact with TSA on a frequent basis. Most of the criticism of TSA comes from frequent fliers and those members of the media who are, themselves, frequent fliers.
"How can TSA claim that commercial passenger planes are "secure" when each and every one of them in the U.S. has uninspected cargo and uninspected U.S. mail loaded into it?"

On the cargo aspect (actually checked bags), you should see what happens in the check bag screening. Ask any Flight crew that goes through airports set up like MRY, (where they go through the secured area where the check baggage screening occurs) and see what they tell you transpires.

On a side note, anyone going on the Cow Do in EZE for Sept. can hear some of those stories. I see Spiff will be attending this.
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For anyone else mystified by this remark, I am General Counsel for a company that manufactures nutraceuticals, vitamins and nutritional products. What this has to do with my credibility is beyond me -- you'll have to ask goingbananas.
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On the cargo aspect (actually checked bags), you should see what happens in the check bag screening. Ask any Flight crew that goes through airports set up like MRY, (where they go through the secured area where the check baggage screening occurs) and see what they tell you transpires. 

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LOL. And I hope HVTSODean continues to be received favorably. But you (in general) are a fickle bunch. The moment HVTSODean dares to disagree with some of you on a topic considered sacred, he'll be thrown into the dungeon along with TSORon, tsadude, and the rest of us who speak our minds without apology.
Really, share some examples. The difference is Dean is capable of answering direct questions, without going off topic, and he is even able to share a differing view without tangents or insults.
None of that you and Bart are capable of doing. Weak...
We all await your answers to the questions posted on the pages prior within this topic.
Ciao,
FH
None of that you and Bart are capable of doing. Weak...
We all await your answers to the questions posted on the pages prior within this topic.
Ciao,
FH
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^ I've mentioned this in prior posts. Bart may disagree with people but he almost always does so civilly (as, of course, does HSVTSODean). TSORon, on the other hand, seems to think he's Don Rickles. And he's not.
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I'll agree with you as well, I may not always agree with Bart. However he does make a genuine effort to answer questions without name calling or trying to change the subject with misdirection.
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Remember, reinforcing the flight deck doors, changing airline policy re: cooperating w/hijackers, & banning of box cutters (purely symbolic, given the allowance of scissors w/much longer blades, & pre-dates the inception of the TSA as was pointed out to you the last time you were asked this question) are off limits for purposes of your answer.
'9/11' (TM) is the only reason for the existence of the TSA & you are a front line member of the TSA's workforce-this shouldn't be such a difficult question for you, or any TSAer, to answer. Why are you having so much trouble w/this??
Remember, you keep bringing this stuff up...
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Name the 1 policy or procedure, for which the TSA is 100% responsible, that, had it been in place on 9/10/01, would have prevented '9/11' (TM).
Remember, reinforcing the flight deck doors, changing airline policy re: cooperating w/hijackers, & banning of box cutters (purely symbolic, given the allowance of scissors w/much longer blades, & pre-dates the inception of the TSA as was pointed out to you the last time you were asked this question) are off limits for purposes of your answer.
'9/11' (TM) is the only reason for the existence of the TSA & you are a front line member of the TSA's workforce-this shouldn't be such a difficult question for you, or any TSAer, to answer. Why are you having so much trouble w/this??
Remember, you keep bringing this stuff up...
Remember, reinforcing the flight deck doors, changing airline policy re: cooperating w/hijackers, & banning of box cutters (purely symbolic, given the allowance of scissors w/much longer blades, & pre-dates the inception of the TSA as was pointed out to you the last time you were asked this question) are off limits for purposes of your answer.
'9/11' (TM) is the only reason for the existence of the TSA & you are a front line member of the TSA's workforce-this shouldn't be such a difficult question for you, or any TSAer, to answer. Why are you having so much trouble w/this??
Remember, you keep bringing this stuff up...
I am a TSO, not management. I dont make or affect policy. Why are you having so much trouble w/this??
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I think the reason you are having 'so much trouble with this' is that nothing the TSA has done, which means by extention you, in the name of preventing 'another 9/11' (TM), has actually accomplished that, despite claims to the contrary.
As others have pointed out to you, every time you pop up w/some nonsense claim or another, the crowd here is going to expect you to 'put up or shut up', the same as we do w/any other poster. However, as you seem to have great difficulty doing this, you may be better off sticking to posting your unsubstantiated, & unsustainable, claims on the EOS blog.
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"Every job out there, without exception, requires more than what one sees on the job description."
And here is the crux of the problem I see with you in this forum. Ignorance. Honestly, thats the problem. One dimensional thinking.
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You've probably been named employee of the year at your station.
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You do realize you have contradicted yourself.
Which is it Ron, either you have the ability to address the problem or you can not make or change policy?
Originally Posted by TSORon
As for challenges, bring one concerning the TSA that at my level I should know and I might take the time to address it.
As for challenges, bring one concerning the TSA that at my level I should know and I might take the time to address it.
Originally Posted by TSORon
I am a TSO, not management. I dont make or affect policy. Why are you having so much trouble w/this??
I am a TSO, not management. I dont make or affect policy. Why are you having so much trouble w/this??
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I'll go one further: either we did our job at the checkpoint or we did not. The focus must remain at the checkpoint. Screening anywhere else beyond the checkpoint is counterproductive. We're taking manpower away from the checkpoint where it is needed most in order to re-screen passengers at the gates.
As for your scenario, I don't see that happening unless someone bypasses the security checkpoint. And that makes it a different scenario involving different players.
As for your scenario, I don't see that happening unless someone bypasses the security checkpoint. And that makes it a different scenario involving different players.
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I don't discount human nature, but airport security would be improved a LOT by giving TSAers better technology.

