Have you decided to fly less to avoid TSA harrassment?
#1
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Have you decided to fly less to avoid TSA harrassment?
Next weekend, I am traveling ORD-MSP-MCI-SPI-ORD. I would like to do at least the first two legs by plane, but I'm so sick of the TSA:
1. asking me to put my clean suit jacket into those filthy bins,
2. insisting that I participate in the shoe carnival even though I have a medical condition which prohibits me from doing so,
3. encouraging general power trips from TSOs, by providing next to zero accountability in the system
that I've decided to drive 8 hours ORD-MSP on Friday night, drive another 8 hours MSP-MCI on Saturday, drive another 11 hours MCI-SPI-ORD on Sunday.
The recent thread about some TSOs telling everyone that all electronics need to be removed just makes my decision easier.
Also, I have a business meeting next Tuesday which I would normally fly out Tuesday morning for, but now I feel I need to fly out Monday evening to give me an evening to relax from the awful TSA experience.
Has anyone else changed their travel plans because of dislike for TSA behavior?
1. asking me to put my clean suit jacket into those filthy bins,
2. insisting that I participate in the shoe carnival even though I have a medical condition which prohibits me from doing so,
3. encouraging general power trips from TSOs, by providing next to zero accountability in the system
that I've decided to drive 8 hours ORD-MSP on Friday night, drive another 8 hours MSP-MCI on Saturday, drive another 11 hours MCI-SPI-ORD on Sunday.
The recent thread about some TSOs telling everyone that all electronics need to be removed just makes my decision easier.
Also, I have a business meeting next Tuesday which I would normally fly out Tuesday morning for, but now I feel I need to fly out Monday evening to give me an evening to relax from the awful TSA experience.
Has anyone else changed their travel plans because of dislike for TSA behavior?
#2
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A lot of my travel was reduced due to changing jobs. However, my discretionary travel has dropped as TSA harassment has increased. I opt for more local trips, flying only when I can't get there any other way.
I told UA that, but they didn't seem to care much and said they supported TSA's idiocy.
I told UA that, but they didn't seem to care much and said they supported TSA's idiocy.
#4
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I started avoiding going to the US (I'm EU based) except when really really necessary. Down from about ~12 visits/year to about 1, taking my business with me and out of the US.
Instead, I've developed profitable business-relations in the far east, where visitors are greeted and treated as friends, not as foes.
And yes, it's due to the harassment by the TSA service staff.
Instead, I've developed profitable business-relations in the far east, where visitors are greeted and treated as friends, not as foes.
And yes, it's due to the harassment by the TSA service staff.
#6
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I've cut the number of trips significantly. Pre-9-11-2001 I used to
average 55+ trips a year, I've reduced it over the years to about
10-15 trips a year now. Significant % reduction came after the
shoe carnival and liquid ban.
I've managed to maintain my airline/alliance status due to long haul
international flights.
average 55+ trips a year, I've reduced it over the years to about
10-15 trips a year now. Significant % reduction came after the
shoe carnival and liquid ban.
I've managed to maintain my airline/alliance status due to long haul
international flights.
#9
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The terrorists have already one. The only way this is going to change is if the airlines lose money AND they know that it's because of TSA's and DHS's idiocy that people are flying less than they used to. They lose money, they get pissed, and they get the government to fix it because they have the bucks. Money talks.
#10
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Ditto. I have flown but once domestically since then (well, twice if you count coming back too ).
I'm fortunate that, barring a family emergency, there is nowhere I have to be in a hurry; and I still enjoy driving even though it probably ends up costing me more due to en route accomodations etc. Worth it not to be vetted / examined / approved by a gubmint worker ^ .
I'm fortunate that, barring a family emergency, there is nowhere I have to be in a hurry; and I still enjoy driving even though it probably ends up costing me more due to en route accomodations etc. Worth it not to be vetted / examined / approved by a gubmint worker ^ .
#11
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I flew 90,000 miles last year, this year it has been zero since March 30th. I probably won't even make silver status this year. TSA is solely responsible for my decision not to travel. I refuse to subject myself any longer to the rules and procedures as dictated by the TSA that do nothing to increase my safety.
Perhaps if the main stream news outlets started doing more to highlight just how ineffective TSA is, and the negative impact they have on the decisions people make to travel by air, then maybe we'll see a change for the better. One can hope, right?
Perhaps if the main stream news outlets started doing more to highlight just how ineffective TSA is, and the negative impact they have on the decisions people make to travel by air, then maybe we'll see a change for the better. One can hope, right?
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I'm fortunate that, barring a family emergency, there is nowhere I have to be in a hurry; and I still enjoy driving even though it probably ends up costing me more due to en route accomodations etc. Worth it not to be vetted / examined / approved by a gubmint worker ^ .
people who support the current government. I bike more these days.
#15
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The terrorists have already one. The only way this is going to change is if the airlines lose money AND they know that it's because of TSA's and DHS's idiocy that people are flying less than they used to. They lose money, they get pissed, and they get the government to fix it because they have the bucks. Money talks.