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myrgirl Jul 21, 2007 9:22 am

First of all, I agree with Spiff; don't allow TSA to tell you how to dress. Wear what you feel comfortable and let TSA deal with it.


Originally Posted by VelvetKennedy (Post 8092237)
Just to clarify, I did a superquick search on Bloomingdales website to give some examples of women's suits that don't require a shirt underneath:

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/catalo...*24*-1*-1*-1*1

http://www1.bloomingdales.com/catalo...*24*-1*-1*-1*9

I hope that helps...

It does help. I looked at your links, and those are more what I would classify as a top, not a jacket. Just tell them that it's not a jacket; it's a top. I wouldn't ask for these to come off. This is what I consider a suit jacket that needs to come off. Now say a lady is wearing this with only a dickie or a shell underneath and she informed me of such, I wouldn't force her to remove the jacket and expose herself. The protocol for this is to send her to secondary for a pat down in lieu of removing the jacket.

LLM Jul 21, 2007 10:54 am


Originally Posted by myrgirl (Post 8095038)
I looked at your links, and those are more what I would classify as a top, not a jacket.

Flashback - wasn't there also a Seinfeld episode where Elaine was complaining about a more attractive woman wearing "a bra as a top"?

peachfront Jul 21, 2007 11:57 am

No, my name is the truth, I think maybe you don't know what "peachfronts" are though. I have a photograph of one at the top of my page if you are curious: :p

http://peachfront.diaryland.com/





Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 8092689)
You mean your name is a lie, you don't just have peaches in front? :D


Loren Pechtel Jul 21, 2007 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by peachfront (Post 8095573)
No, my name is the truth, I think maybe you don't know what "peachfronts" are though. I have a photograph of one at the top of my page if you are curious: :p

http://peachfront.diaryland.com/

Parrots don't have breasts to show.

RSSrsvp Jul 21, 2007 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8083121)
A French tourist did and was arrested for indecent exposure.


At what airport?

chrisny2 Jul 21, 2007 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach (Post 8085475)
Fortunately, this won't happen in places like Canada where gender equal protection under the law has been verified by the top court.

Same with New York: anywhere where it's legal for a man to be shirtless, a woman is also allowed to be shirtless.

Wally Bird Jul 21, 2007 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by RSSrsvp (Post 8095843)
At what airport?

Evansville Ind. Link in OP.

I have no idea why a tourist would be in Evansville, but there you go.

xanthuos Jul 21, 2007 5:00 pm


Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8096478)
I have no idea why a tourist would be in Evansville, but there you go.

No kidding. Once I saw it happened at EVV, I wasn't at all surprised that the woman was arrested.

party_boy Jul 21, 2007 5:01 pm


Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach (Post 8085469)
You wonder if those who allegedly are looking to do harm will just get around to recruiting 500-pounders and have them smuggle explosives/liquids in their folds of fat. I'd love (as in staring at car wrecks) to see TSA hand searching them. :p

You don't even need to do it. All you need to do is learn how to write arabic and post it up online. Then it will become a "credible" threat like how the liquid ban was.

n5667 Jul 21, 2007 5:39 pm


Originally Posted by Wally Bird (Post 8091968)
There you go with that cop-talk again. And you didn't even get your gold shield yet :rolleyes: .

Wally, if you actually read that part of my post and thought I was being serious, then... well... I'm sorry for you, I really am. Have you heard of Ativan?


Originally Posted by Essxjay
Answer me this then: Why the hell was it strongly recommended to me by a female screener back in January 2003 that if I didn't want the free feel-up in the future I should forgo the bra and wear a baggy sweater through the checkpoint from then on?

Absolutely Asinine™.

January 2003? Because it was a long time ago? I think it was after the pair of Russian female bombers that the emphasis on baggy clothing really became more... emphasized. Point is, at this point anything that obscures contours should be removed if possible, if not, then a pat down should follow. You know how it is, gotta keep those terrorists on their toes! :D

cheepneezy Jul 21, 2007 6:24 pm

Obscures contours?:rolleyes:

How about young males who wear jeans 4 sizes too big hanging off their rear end, with the crotch down by their knees, and about 6 inches too long. Where are the contours there? Are they asked to remove their clothing?

n5667 Jul 21, 2007 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by cheepneezy (Post 8096732)
Obscures contours?:rolleyes:

How about young males who wear jeans 4 sizes too big hanging off their rear end, with the crotch down by their knees, and about 6 inches too long. Where are the contours there? Are they asked to remove their clothing?

Of course not, they should be referred to secondary screening.

The issue is, not everyone is well versed in female business attire - and so one may be forgiven for not knowing there is nothing on underneath. A simple mistake, but you never have to remove any item of clothing, so ultimately the same thing would happen to you as the young male with very baggy jeans.

Superguy Jul 21, 2007 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by n5667 (Post 8096749)
Of course not, they should be referred to secondary screening.

The issue is, not everyone is well versed in female business attire - and so one may be forgiven for not knowing there is nothing on underneath. A simple mistake, but you never have to remove any item of clothing, so ultimately the same thing would happen to you as the young male with very baggy jeans.

And the interesting thing is that secondary wouldn't be required with puffers and WTMD's as it would pick up metal and nitrates.

But Kippie would rather get his jollies feeling everyone up by proxy.

n5667 Jul 21, 2007 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by Superguy (Post 8096852)
And the interesting thing is that secondary wouldn't be required with puffers and WTMD's as it would pick up metal and nitrates.

But Kippie would rather get his jollies feeling everyone up by proxy.

Yeah, except that puffers suck, and have very limited distribution... The things barely stay online for long before requiring servicing, apparently their filters don't handle large terminals well, and they weren't designed for the volumes they are generally saddled with.

I agree that security that doesn't include explosives detection equipment is handicapped...

Superguy Jul 21, 2007 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by n5667 (Post 8096885)
Yeah, except that puffers suck, and have very limited distribution... The things barely stay online for long before requiring servicing, apparently their filters don't handle large terminals well, and they weren't designed for the volumes they are generally saddled with.

I agree that security that doesn't include explosives detection equipment is handicapped...

So what is TSA doing to rectify the situation, other then just letting them sit and collect dust? TSA should have had the companies invest a lot more into making them work better before deploying them.

However, instead of using a technology that works but has some issues, he's using a technology that works well but doesn't do anything to detect what's being looked for. That doesn't register very high on the smarts scale.


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