Why should I show my breasts?
I get really mad when I'm wearing a women's suit with nothing underneath or just a shell that is inappropriate for wearing in public by itself and TSA wants to make me take my suit jacket off. Usually, when I point out nicely that it would be indecent, they drop it quickly and let me right on through. However, once in a while... they want to make an issue out of it. So, what I'm wondering, is if I should have to change my manner of business dress code because there is some blanket rule that since men have to take off business jackets, women have to, too, no matter what is underneath? It was suggested to me by a TSA agent that I dress more appropriately for airplane travel and avoid wearing business suits if the jacket can't come off. Reality is that I have already started dressing differently when I know I am going through security, and I make sure there is something underneath now, but I think its really stupid and I resent it, because I should be able to dress as I want to. I wish I had the nerve to take off the business suit jacket and walk through with breasts exposed, because they told me I had to take my jacket off, but that's not the way I want to establish my 15 minutes of fame.
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Don't let the TSA tell you how to dress. Wear what you like and tell the TSA to go pound sand if they expect you to expose yourself in order to dispell their pathetic, irrational fears.
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oh boy
That`s just ridiculous.
No one in the world hast he right to tell you what to wear. |
Oh boy I had this discussion at LHR ealier this year...
When I got dressed that morning I was not flying anywhere. I was to pick up our client coming from LHR and meet with our boss at a Frankfurt hotel. FRA is a 2 hour drive for me ánd I was already on my way when my boss called to change our plans - we would be flying to me our client in LHR. The flight there was not a problem BUT coming back was quite another!!! The inspector insisted I take off my blazer. I pointed out that I was not wearing anything apropreate underneath since I had not expected to fly that morning. That did not interest this guy one bit! So I got a bit cleared " I am only wearing a bra underneath!" "Madam you will still have to remove the blazer...." Hey I had been up since 4 am so this nonsence in the evening was not do any good. My boss saved the day and got a supervisor to deal with it. When I explain for a 4th time that I had not intented to fly that day, or I would ahve dressed accordingly. I was wanded down and allowed to go on however not without the comment to dress more senceably the next time I fly.... GRRRR That just about did it!!!! My bosses comment was "lets go before you explode..." |
Not trying to be sexist but wouldn't it be nice some day for some bra-less woman to take off her jacket and walk through. This would show up the lunacy. Woman's apparel is different to men's a womans jacket does not equate to a man's - in a number of occasions it is really a shirt.
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Unfortunately, I believe they'd say that you can request a private screening. But the better thing to do would be to remove the article of clothing and then talk to the supervisor and media about how you were strip searched at the checkpoint and sexually harassed. Something sensational like that would get their attention...
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Originally Posted by donaghadee
(Post 8082643)
Not trying to be sexist but wouldn't it be nice some day for some bra-less woman to take off her jacket and walk through. This would show up the lunacy. Woman's apparel is different to men's a womans jacket does not equate to a man's - in a number of occasions it is really a shirt.
I had one try and get my 80 year old Dad to take of his sweater which was form fitting and not baggy or anything. I had a fit (which only ended up making my Dad more embarassed) but in the end they let him through. In their attempts to prove that they are not 'profiling' they are absolutely absurd. |
Originally Posted by donaghadee
(Post 8082643)
Not trying to be sexist but wouldn't it be nice some day for some bra-less woman to take off her jacket and walk through. This would show up the lunacy. Woman's apparel is different to men's a womans jacket does not equate to a man's - in a number of occasions it is really a shirt.
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For the beads, of course!
Whenever VelvetKennedy is asked to show her breasts to the TSA, then the TSA should at least give her some beads. :D
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I sort of have to agree with the TSA officer. I'm not sure where it would be appropriate in public to wear a business suit with no top under the jacket. It sounds like fetish wear. Senator Vitter, you may go in and see the mistress now... Probably I'm just not up on current styles, but to me it is not businesslike if you forgot to wear your shirt!
I wear a sport/jogging bra at the airport. Once or twice, they have asked for more layers to come off, than just the jacket. A sport bra that is decent for public viewing at the gym should be OK for a brief exposure. I'm not going to be wearing my Victoria Secret's underwired miracle workers in a security line anyway. It seems like somebody could take out the pads and take in quite a lot of contraband in some of those designs. Better yet in my opinion would be the sport bra with a form-fitting opaque-colored shell over it. Sometimes I like a turtleneck shell, but if you want to look shirtless under your jacket, then you could pick a design with a low-cut neckline. The main thing is to have the item follow the figure so that it doesn't look as if you're trying to conceal something. When I dress like this, I've never been asked to strip down to the sports bra and flash my fans. No doubt much to their relief! :) |
Peach I was wearing one of those round neck /Chanel type blazers that one wears buttoned up - and as I had already said when I chose it in the morning I had NO INTENTION of getting on a plane at all - otherwise I would not have worn it!!
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Originally Posted by bzbdewd
(Post 8082680)
Believe me.... if a bra was all I was wearing I'd do it and let them have the red face - wouldn't bother me a bit! I have changed my mode of dress just to avoid the hassle but if it were a similar case to the OP I'd just do it & the H*ll with them.
I had one try and get my 80 year old Dad to take of his sweater which was form fitting and not baggy or anything. I had a fit (which only ended up making my Dad more embarassed) but in the end they let him through. In their attempts to prove that they are not 'profiling' they are absolutely absurd. |
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 8083185)
I sort of have to agree with the TSA officer. I'm not sure where it would be appropriate in public to wear a business suit with no top under the jacket. It sounds like fetish wear. Senator Vitter, you may go in and see the mistress now... Probably I'm just not up on current styles, but to me it is not businesslike if you forgot to wear your shirt!
I wear a sport/jogging bra at the airport. Once or twice, they have asked for more layers to come off, than just the jacket. A sport bra that is decent for public viewing at the gym should be OK for a brief exposure. I'm not going to be wearing my Victoria Secret's underwired miracle workers in a security line anyway. It seems like somebody could take out the pads and take in quite a lot of contraband in some of those designs. Better yet in my opinion would be the sport bra with a form-fitting opaque-colored shell over it. Sometimes I like a turtleneck shell, but if you want to look shirtless under your jacket, then you could pick a design with a low-cut neckline. The main thing is to have the item follow the figure so that it doesn't look as if you're trying to conceal something. When I dress like this, I've never been asked to strip down to the sports bra and flash my fans. No doubt much to their relief! :) I have several suits where the jacket/top can be worn without a shirt underneath, and I am a pretty conservative dresser. |
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 8083185)
I sort of have to agree with the TSA officer. I'm not sure where it would be appropriate in public to wear a business suit with no top under the jacket. It sounds like fetish wear. Senator Vitter, you may go in and see the mistress now... Probably I'm just not up on current styles, but to me it is not businesslike if you forgot to wear your shirt!
I wear a sport/jogging bra at the airport. Once or twice, they have asked for more layers to come off, than just the jacket. A sport bra that is decent for public viewing at the gym should be OK for a brief exposure. I'm not going to be wearing my Victoria Secret's underwired miracle workers in a security line anyway. It seems like somebody could take out the pads and take in quite a lot of contraband in some of those designs. What concern is it of the TSA to be issuing diktats about business dress or the cut of such dress? I or moeve shouldn't be told to adjust our underwear styles to suit some idiot bureaucrat's fantasy scenario of underwire garments as potential bomb gear. Travel is uncomfortable enough without having to stuff myself into a sports bra for untold hours on top of everything else. On the level, I'll take arrest and/or indecency charges before I'll take off my Victoria's Secret Miracle Bra in order to fly, but you suit yourself. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 8081767)
Don't let the TSA tell you how to dress. Wear what you like and tell the TSA to go pound sand if they expect you to expose yourself in order to dispell their pathetic, irrational fears.
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Originally Posted by bzbdewd
(Post 8082680)
Believe me.... if a bra was all I was wearing I'd do it and let them have the red face - wouldn't bother me a bit!
Originally Posted by iCorpRoadie
(Post 8084399)
I'd love to be there and see their face!!!
Once again, you and I see things differently. (At least, we would be seeing different things.) |
Going through to the US side at YOW I was told to remove my sweater. I had already taken off my winter coat. It was a zip up sweater and I did have a t-shirt on underneath. What annoyed me was the man before me and the man after me were not requested to remove their sweaters, it was only me.
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Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 8084592)
Once again, you and I see things differently.
(At least, we would be seeing different things.) |
Originally Posted by iCorpRoadie
(Post 8084688)
What would you be looking at? :)
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Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 8084734)
The board telling me if my flight will depart on time, what else? :D
so when can i come and visit you? Im trying to get a MR going...oh back on topic. sorry i was distracted :) |
Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 8084734)
The board telling me if my flight will depart on time, what else? :D
Mike |
I think I've figured out my new travel attire.
A trenchcoat.
Just a trenchcoat. I'm sure the TSA will like it. |
Originally Posted by DanTravels
(Post 8084936)
A trenchcoat.
Just a trenchcoat. I'm sure the TSA will like it. |
Originally Posted by DanTravels
(Post 8084936)
A trenchcoat.
Just a trenchcoat. I'm sure the TSA will like it. |
And I came through MIA TSA by Gate G TWICE last night (flt was delayed so I came bacek out to the shops) and they never even asked me to take my sweater/jacket off. I just love consistency.....
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Originally Posted by KathrynInCanada
(Post 8084601)
Going through to the US side at YOW I was told to remove my sweater. I had already taken off my winter coat. It was a zip up sweater and I did have a t-shirt on underneath. What annoyed me was the man before me and the man after me were not requested to remove their sweaters, it was only me.
Seriously; that's what TSA (and presumably CATSA) use as a yardstick - if they think (as if :rolleyes: ) you could be concealing some contraband underneath, then off it comes. Or as we have surmised before, it could simply have been on a screener's whim, "designed inconsistency" n'all :td: . |
Originally Posted by DanTravels
(Post 8084936)
A trenchcoat.
Just a trenchcoat. I'm sure the TSA will like it. |
You wonder if those who allegedly are looking to do harm will just get around to recruiting 500-pounders and have them smuggle explosives/liquids in their folds of fat. I'd love (as in staring at car wrecks) to see TSA hand searching them. :p
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
(Post 8083121)
A French tourist did this (at LAX ?) and was arrested for indecent exposure.
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Originally Posted by donaghadee
(Post 8082643)
Not trying to be sexist but wouldn't it be nice some day for some bra-less woman to take off her jacket and walk through. This would show up the lunacy. Woman's apparel is different to men's a womans jacket does not equate to a man's - in a number of occasions it is really a shirt.
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Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 8083185)
I sort of have to agree with the TSA officer. I'm not sure where it would be appropriate in public to wear a business suit with no top under the jacket. It sounds like fetish wear.
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 8083185)
I wear a sport/jogging bra at the airport. Once or twice, they have asked for more layers to come off, than just the jacket.
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Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 8083185)
I sort of have to agree with the TSA officer. I'm not sure where it would be appropriate in public to wear a business suit with no top under the jacket. It sounds like fetish wear.
Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 8083185)
I'm not going to be wearing my Victoria Secret's underwired miracle workers in a security line anyway. It seems like somebody could take out the pads and take in quite a lot of contraband in some of those designs.
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Perhaps because "they're real, and they're magnificent?"
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Originally Posted by JHattery
(Post 8087445)
Perhaps because "they're real, and they're magnificent?"
Who would have guessed that this is today's consequence of the 'war on terror'. |
Having gotten the "full paw" the last two times I travelled (which for now are the last), I have to add that that is as bad as showing.
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I think this applies in this situation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRl1W...elated&search=
Just do what she does! |
Originally Posted by JHattery
(Post 8087445)
Perhaps because "they're real, and they're magnificent?"
Originally Posted by BiziBB
(Post 8087472)
(It's killing me - name the scene!)
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Originally Posted by jonesing
(Post 8087605)
Teri Hatcher answers the question about her breasts....Seinfeld, Season 7, The Implants
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Originally Posted by peachfront
(Post 8083185)
I sort of have to agree with the TSA officer. I'm not sure where it would be appropriate in public to wear a business suit with no top under the jacket. It sounds like fetish wear. Senator Vitter, you may go in and see the mistress now... Probably I'm just not up on current styles, but to me it is not businesslike if you forgot to wear your shirt!
I wear a sport/jogging bra at the airport. Once or twice, they have asked for more layers to come off, than just the jacket. A sport bra that is decent for public viewing at the gym should be OK for a brief exposure. I'm not going to be wearing my Victoria Secret's underwired miracle workers in a security line anyway. It seems like somebody could take out the pads and take in quite a lot of contraband in some of those designs. Better yet in my opinion would be the sport bra with a form-fitting opaque-colored shell over it. Sometimes I like a turtleneck shell, but if you want to look shirtless under your jacket, then you could pick a design with a low-cut neckline. The main thing is to have the item follow the figure so that it doesn't look as if you're trying to conceal something. When I dress like this, I've never been asked to strip down to the sports bra and flash my fans. No doubt much to their relief! :) |
I guarantee they don't ask you to take off the thin silk camisole. If they do, come back and tell peachfront, and I'll beat them across the head and shoulders with my real and magnificents! :cool:
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