Gate Inspections by TSA make a comeback
Apr 13, 2004 | 8:17 pm
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Because...
Originally Posted by JIMCHI
Why would you get into an argument with a gate screener?? Do you think that person is in charge of the whole system and could change whatever procedures they were following?? Overall, these TSA people are quite courteous and trying to insult or intimidate them will only cause them to become hardened and less polite, as so many other people in customer service positions become after putting up with attitudes like this over a period of time. If you have a complaint about the procedures, address them to your Congressional representative or to TSA headquarters.
Apr 13, 2004 | 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by freeupgrade
Let's keep an eye on it though - if anyone gets searched at DFW, let's post date, flight # and routing if we can.
Apr 13, 2004 | 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
No one forced these people to take a job with the TSA that involves un-American harassment of their fellow citizens and guests in the country. In my opinion, any TSA agent who engages in this un-American activity should hear it from each person they harass. Perhaps it will motivate them to pass the passengers' unhappiness up the line, or better yet, quit en masse, forcing the TSA management to rethink these asinine policies of harassment.
I work at rock concerts for fun, and we surely search people. Why? Having someone stabbed at your venue is not fun, and even less so for the person getting stabbed. Sure, it's far less likely that someone can get something through the scanner, and the search may not serve a purpose, may be annoying, blah, blah, blah..but un-American? I don't think so...
Cheers.
Apr 13, 2004 | 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by MIKESILV
Tough S***
mike
mike
I'm glad that getting on someone's case for what they do makes you feel better. Very cool.
Yeah, I know you don't care and tough s**t to me. Very cool.
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Apr 13, 2004 | 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by brp
it's people that like to complain for the sake of complaining that are truly annoying.
Yeah, I know you don't care and tough s**t to me. Very cool.
Cheers.
Yeah, I know you don't care and tough s**t to me. Very cool.
Cheers.
Masocist!
mike
Apr 13, 2004 | 8:51 pm
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un-American is not Unconstitutional
Originally Posted by brp
All vitriolic rhetoric aside, exactly why is searching someone in the name of security un-American? One can argue about the efficacy of the policy, but I haven't seen anything in your posts that demonstrates violation of the Constitution.
I work at rock concerts for fun, and we surely search people. Why? Having someone stabbed at your venue is not fun, and even less so for the person getting stabbed. Sure, it's far less likely that someone can get something through the scanner, and the search may not serve a purpose, may be annoying, blah, blah, blah..but un-American? I don't think so...
Cheers.
I work at rock concerts for fun, and we surely search people. Why? Having someone stabbed at your venue is not fun, and even less so for the person getting stabbed. Sure, it's far less likely that someone can get something through the scanner, and the search may not serve a purpose, may be annoying, blah, blah, blah..but un-American? I don't think so...
Cheers.
Searching people without probable cause has been unfortunately upheld to be Constitutional, due to the disgusting concept of "implied concent". But it is no less un-American then stopping people randomly on the street and frisking them/demanding papers.
Apr 13, 2004 | 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by MIKESILV
You KNOW I dont care and then you still complained about me?
Masocist!
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Masocist!
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(and it's spelled "masochist')
Cheers.
Apr 13, 2004 | 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by MIKESILV
Sure. I'm a big boy I can take it.
What me worry?
mike
What me worry?
mike
Cheers.
Apr 13, 2004 | 9:32 pm
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Last time for me was YYZ in November on American Eagle. In Canada, their own security do it...if I recall, it's called the GTA. Well, this girl did the whole makeover and told me to put my gloves in my bag. Well, okay. 
What a joke. Got on the plane and put my gloves on. It was cold in Canada.
Got wanded in NRT last year once before boarding, but that is okay. They can do anything to me in Japan.
Remember the US election this November 2nd, vote and be heard.
What a joke. Got on the plane and put my gloves on. It was cold in Canada.Got wanded in NRT last year once before boarding, but that is okay. They can do anything to me in Japan.
Remember the US election this November 2nd, vote and be heard.
Apr 13, 2004 | 10:18 pm
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Gate checks IME have never stopped on US bound international flights. Every flight I've been on from Mexico bound for the US always has this routine, and with four or more people, you have at least a 1 in 3 chance of getting "selected" and put through an utterly inane search. I guarantee that anyone who wanted to could get a knife through one of these inspections with no problem.
I get very frustrated and annoyed sometimes, but I do try my best not to take it out on the people conducting the inspections. These folks are just trying to make a salary and put food on the table, not fight constitutional battles on our behalf (especially in other countries!
).
I get very frustrated and annoyed sometimes, but I do try my best not to take it out on the people conducting the inspections. These folks are just trying to make a salary and put food on the table, not fight constitutional battles on our behalf (especially in other countries!
).
Apr 13, 2004 | 11:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
Searching people without probable cause has been unfortunately upheld to be Constitutional, due to the disgusting concept of "implied concent". But it is no less un-American then stopping people randomly on the street and frisking them/demanding papers.
And just try to not give "implied concent". You might as well forgot about getting on that plane. It has bothered me alot since Big Brother took over airport security. How does it not violate the 4th amendment if they force me under the threat of not being able to get on the plane to consent to a search be a government official?
Apr 14, 2004 | 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by Spiff
No one forced these people to take a job with the TSA that involves un-American harassment of their fellow citizens and guests in the country. In my opinion, any TSA agent who engages in this un-American activity should hear it from each person they harass. Perhaps it will motivate them to pass the passengers' unhappiness up the line, or better yet, quit en masse, forcing the TSA management to rethink these asinine policies of harassment.
IMHO, all ACLU/libertarian types should have a choice of either flying on aircraft screened under current security regs or, if that really gets them so bent out of shape, have the choice of flying totally unscreened (1950s style security) aircraft where anybody can get on carrying any damned thing they want. Those unscreened aircraft would be crewed by like-minded freedom zealots. However, those planes would be required to have radio-controlled explosive charges on board so that if they were taken over by terrorists, they could be safely destroyed by ground personnel before crashing into buildings.