Acceptable Identification for Domestic Travel [Consolidated Thread]
Oct 29, 2011, 5:25 am
#31
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"Acceptable" ID is whatever the TDC decides it is on the day.
Can someone please explain why an ID needs an expiry date. Identity does not expire unless that person has. Passports and Drivers licenses have expiry dates because they aren't ID and are issued for a limited time for a set reason.
Why does the card need a gender listed on it? (The gender noted on my ID is wrong anyway)
Can someone please explain why an ID needs an expiry date. Identity does not expire unless that person has. Passports and Drivers licenses have expiry dates because they aren't ID and are issued for a limited time for a set reason.
Why does the card need a gender listed on it? (The gender noted on my ID is wrong anyway)
The sex requirement (I refuse to use the word gender as that refers to grammar and not to male/female) is funny. It would have to be one seriously ugly woman that tries to get through using my ID. I shop a lot at WalMart and have not ever seen a close qualifier.
Oct 29, 2011, 8:34 am
#32
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I could show you my middle school ID card as a means of verifying my identity. Of course, that photo is now 30+ years old; I have a lot more fat and a lot less hair than I did then (sigh). You'd be hard-pressed to know I'm the same person.
So, most identity cards need expiration dates. And, yes, that leads to certain ridiculous scenarios. But allowing any identity document, regardless of date of issue, as a means of verifying identity creates other ridiculous scenarios.
Oct 29, 2011, 11:43 am
#33
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Identity doesn't expire. However, the usefulness of a particular identity card in verifying one's identity degrades over time.
I could show you my middle school ID card as a means of verifying my identity. Of course, that photo is now 30+ years old; I have a lot more fat and a lot less hair than I did then (sigh). You'd be hard-pressed to know I'm the same person.
So, most identity cards need expiration dates. And, yes, that leads to certain ridiculous scenarios. But allowing any identity document, regardless of date of issue, as a means of verifying identity creates other ridiculous scenarios.
I could show you my middle school ID card as a means of verifying my identity. Of course, that photo is now 30+ years old; I have a lot more fat and a lot less hair than I did then (sigh). You'd be hard-pressed to know I'm the same person.
So, most identity cards need expiration dates. And, yes, that leads to certain ridiculous scenarios. But allowing any identity document, regardless of date of issue, as a means of verifying identity creates other ridiculous scenarios.
BTW: I also recently found my high school ID card. In addition to the photo looking nothing like me, it was basically a laminated hand written piece of paper with a Polaroid photo glued in the middle.
Oct 31, 2011, 12:16 pm
#34
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I used my Global Entry card (which is acceptable ID) last Friday at PDX, and of course the one-striper didn't know what to make of it. Called over an aggressive two-striper who demanded other ID (request: declined) and enen a three-striper wasn't sure.
I had ample time so I insisted on using that as my ID and let them hash it out. Apparently they showed it to some BDOs (their phrasing) who gave it the okay.
When the three-striper wouldn't immediately clear it I said, "Then call an AFSD or the FSD." The looks on their faces were priceless.
Normally I wouldn't be so pissy, but 1. It's TSA, and 2. If I have to follow every one of their ridiculous, nonsensical rules, then they must also follow them, including recognizing my GE card as acceptable identification.
I had ample time so I insisted on using that as my ID and let them hash it out. Apparently they showed it to some BDOs (their phrasing) who gave it the okay.
When the three-striper wouldn't immediately clear it I said, "Then call an AFSD or the FSD." The looks on their faces were priceless.
Normally I wouldn't be so pissy, but 1. It's TSA, and 2. If I have to follow every one of their ridiculous, nonsensical rules, then they must also follow them, including recognizing my GE card as acceptable identification.
Oct 31, 2011, 8:23 pm
#35
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I used my Global Entry card (which is acceptable ID) last Friday at PDX, and of course the one-striper didn't know what to make of it. Called over an aggressive two-striper who demanded other ID (request: declined) and enen a three-striper wasn't sure.
I had ample time so I insisted on using that as my ID and let them hash it out. Apparently they showed it to some BDOs (their phrasing) who gave it the okay.
When the three-striper wouldn't immediately clear it I said, "Then call an AFSD or the FSD." The looks on their faces were priceless.
Normally I wouldn't be so pissy, but 1. It's TSA, and 2. If I have to follow every one of their ridiculous, nonsensical rules, then they must also follow them, including recognizing my GE card as acceptable identification.
I had ample time so I insisted on using that as my ID and let them hash it out. Apparently they showed it to some BDOs (their phrasing) who gave it the okay.
When the three-striper wouldn't immediately clear it I said, "Then call an AFSD or the FSD." The looks on their faces were priceless.
Normally I wouldn't be so pissy, but 1. It's TSA, and 2. If I have to follow every one of their ridiculous, nonsensical rules, then they must also follow them, including recognizing my GE card as acceptable identification.
Nov 1, 2011, 2:01 pm
#36
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The TWIC card doesn't have a DOB on it, just your name and an expiration date. It's hilarious (and by hilarious I mean sad) when you try and use it and they don't recognize it as an ID they issued. It was the worst at landlocked airports (BOI/DAL/TUS/LAS), since they don't have a lot of port workers coming through. Haven't had a problem this year though, IIRC.
Nov 2, 2011, 5:16 am
#37
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You are correct in that there are a few acceptable IDs that do not have a DOB on them, and are not list on the TSA web-site. Add to that some acceptable IDs do not have an expiration date.
Last edited by SATTSO; Nov 2, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Nov 2, 2011, 4:00 pm
#39
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Explain please.
Nov 2, 2011, 10:08 pm
#41
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You aren't required to have an ID in order to fly - and SATTSO knows that (or should know that).
http://files.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.pdf
http://files.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.pdf
Nov 3, 2011, 5:44 am
#42
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You aren't required to have an ID in order to fly - and SATTSO knows that (or should know that).
http://files.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.pdf
http://files.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.pdf
Nov 4, 2011, 3:50 pm
#43
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Sep 24, 2012, 3:51 pm
#44
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TSA Acceptable ID
I will be traveling with my Canadian adult son next week within the US (TPA-ATL). His passport is about to expire (and is in process so I do not have it).
The only government ID he has at this point is his OHIP card. Is it the experience of my fellow Canadians that this is acceptable by the TSA or should I expect problems?
The only government ID he has at this point is his OHIP card. Is it the experience of my fellow Canadians that this is acceptable by the TSA or should I expect problems?
Sep 24, 2012, 3:58 pm
#45
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OHIP card ? no that is not a real id
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...documents.shtm
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...documents.shtm
Adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID in order to be allowed to go through the checkpoint and onto their flight.
We understand passengers occasionally arrive at the airport without an ID, due to lost items or inadvertently leaving them at home. Not having an ID, does not necessarily mean a passenger won’t be allowed to fly. If passengers are willing to provide additional information, we have other means of substantiating someone’s identity, like using publicly available databases.
Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. Passengers whose identity cannot be verified by TSA may not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint or onto an airplane.
Acceptable IDs include:
U.S. passport
U.S. passport card
DHS "Trusted Traveler" cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
U.S. Military ID (active duty or retired military and their dependents, and DOD civilians)
Permanent Resident Card
Border Crossing Card
DHS-designated enhanced driver's license
Drivers Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
A Native American Tribal Photo ID
An airline or airport-issued ID (if issued under a TSA-approved security plan)
A foreign government-issued passport
Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) card
Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)
Non-US/Canadian citizens are not required to carry their passports if they have documents issued by the U.S. government such as Permanent Resident Cards. Those who do not should be carrying their passports while visiting the U.S.
This standardization of the list of accepted documents better aligns TSA with other DHS components, including Customs and Border Protection, and REAL ID benchmarks.
We understand passengers occasionally arrive at the airport without an ID, due to lost items or inadvertently leaving them at home. Not having an ID, does not necessarily mean a passenger won’t be allowed to fly. If passengers are willing to provide additional information, we have other means of substantiating someone’s identity, like using publicly available databases.
Passengers who are cleared through this process may be subject to additional screening. Passengers whose identity cannot be verified by TSA may not be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint or onto an airplane.
Acceptable IDs include:
U.S. passport
U.S. passport card
DHS "Trusted Traveler" cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
U.S. Military ID (active duty or retired military and their dependents, and DOD civilians)
Permanent Resident Card
Border Crossing Card
DHS-designated enhanced driver's license
Drivers Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
A Native American Tribal Photo ID
An airline or airport-issued ID (if issued under a TSA-approved security plan)
A foreign government-issued passport
Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) card
Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)
Non-US/Canadian citizens are not required to carry their passports if they have documents issued by the U.S. government such as Permanent Resident Cards. Those who do not should be carrying their passports while visiting the U.S.
This standardization of the list of accepted documents better aligns TSA with other DHS components, including Customs and Border Protection, and REAL ID benchmarks.