Undocumented immigrant with a valid state ID
May 29, 2010 | 2:55 pm
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Can a undocumented person travel within the U.S?
Alright kids,
I got a friend, whom happens to have a drives license, but he's undocumented. he got his license from IDAHO, they allow immigrants resident of their state get an State Issued Drives License.
So, can he use that to travel to NJ this summer with me?
Do they check his legal status or something? Or is he safe to travel?
P.S that ID is state issued id, so that means its a Gov-Issued ID.
Any feedback?
Thanks!
---Keep it real----
I got a friend, whom happens to have a drives license, but he's undocumented. he got his license from IDAHO, they allow immigrants resident of their state get an State Issued Drives License.
So, can he use that to travel to NJ this summer with me?
Do they check his legal status or something? Or is he safe to travel?
P.S that ID is state issued id, so that means its a Gov-Issued ID.
Any feedback?
Thanks!
---Keep it real----
May 29, 2010 | 3:04 pm
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I'm not an expert here for traveling, but I always thought traveling in the United States did not require you to carry a passport or ID as your not passing across any boarders into another country. Your just passing into another state?
I'll let another FT'er respond that's the best I can think of.
I'll let another FT'er respond that's the best I can think of.
May 29, 2010 | 3:07 pm
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I'm not an expert here for traveling, but I always thought traveling in the United States did not require you to carry a passport or ID as your not passing across any boarders into another country. Your just passing into another state?
I'll let another FT'er respond that's the best I can think of.
I'll let another FT'er respond that's the best I can think of.
Yes, we are going to New York!!! PARTY....but first he's got to get this stuff fixed. I really dont want to drive there from Idaho.
What about this thing call Real-ID benchmark?!
This is frustrating...
May 30, 2010 | 7:20 am
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State issued driver's license is fine. However, the traveler should leave all evidence of being a non-U.S. citizen at home. Otherwise, if for some reason the traveler gets a secondary and the TSA finds evidence that the traveler is an illegal alien, he will be turned over to law enforcement.
See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ml#post9605187
See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ml#post9605187
May 30, 2010 | 9:24 am
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That's weird... Here's a quote from the Idaho DMV:
http://www.itd.idaho.gov/dmv/DriverS...ense_facts.htm
If your friend bought a fake ID, he will be caught and reported.
Lawful Presence -- You will also be required to provide proof of lawful presence if you are not a citizen or national of the United States. Acceptable lawful presence documents include:
Certified original U.S. Birth Certificate
Certification of Birth Abroad
Original Certificate of Naturalization/Citizenship
Permanent Resident card or Resident Alien card
Employment Authorization card
Valid Foreign passport with valid U.S. VISA and I-94 (Arrival/Departure record)
Certified original U.S. Birth Certificate
Certification of Birth Abroad
Original Certificate of Naturalization/Citizenship
Permanent Resident card or Resident Alien card
Employment Authorization card
Valid Foreign passport with valid U.S. VISA and I-94 (Arrival/Departure record)
If your friend bought a fake ID, he will be caught and reported.
May 30, 2010 | 12:28 pm
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As far as I understand it, there would no requirement to prove to anyone that he is legally in the country in order to fly from Idaho to New Jersey. They would simply present their ID at the security checkpoint and be on their way. That being said, your friend is breaking the law by being in this country illegally and could face consequences if they are stopped by law enforcement for some other reason.
May 30, 2010 | 6:55 pm
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That's weird... Here's a quote from the Idaho DMV:
http://www.itd.idaho.gov/dmv/DriverS...ense_facts.htm
If your friend bought a fake ID, he will be caught and reported.
http://www.itd.idaho.gov/dmv/DriverS...ense_facts.htm
If your friend bought a fake ID, he will be caught and reported.
No, it was not FAKE ID....he really got it. When you get over there, it says you need a SSN but you sing a thing, where it allows you to get one.
He has a clean record, no criminal background and hes only 19years old, doesnt look mexican or illegal.
All he needs is his Drives License and thats it than?
May 30, 2010 | 7:48 pm
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No, it was not FAKE ID....he really got it. When you get over there, it says you need a SSN but you sing a thing, where it allows you to get one.
He has a clean record, no criminal background and hes only 19years old, doesnt look mexican or illegal.
All he needs is his Drives License and thats it than?
He has a clean record, no criminal background and hes only 19years old, doesnt look mexican or illegal.
All he needs is his Drives License and thats it than?
He should leave his passport and any documentation about his status or country of birth/citizenship at home.
(He should not fly out of Buffalo, NY, by the way. Don't worry about the "Real ID benchmark" thing-- ID's from all 50 states are valid for the time being).
May 30, 2010 | 7:56 pm
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If it is a real, valid Idaho DL, all he needs is that. They will see him as a normal passenger, nothing special.
He should leave his passport and any documentation about his status or country of birth/citizenship at home.
(He should not fly out of Buffalo, NY, by the way. Don't worry about the "Real ID benchmark" thing-- ID's from all 50 states are valid for the time being).
He should leave his passport and any documentation about his status or country of birth/citizenship at home.
(He should not fly out of Buffalo, NY, by the way. Don't worry about the "Real ID benchmark" thing-- ID's from all 50 states are valid for the time being).
Why not fly from Buffalo NY?
May 30, 2010 | 8:02 pm
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May 30, 2010 | 8:12 pm
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May 31, 2010 | 9:22 am
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Can a undocumented person travel within the U.S?
I got a friend, whom happens to have a drives license, but he's undocumented. he got his license from IDAHO, they allow immigrants resident of their state get an State Issued Drives License.
So, can he use that to travel to NJ this summer with me?
Do they check his legal status or something? Or is he safe to travel?
P.S that ID is state issued id, so that means its a Gov-Issued ID.
Any feedback?
Thanks!
---Keep it real----
May 31, 2010 | 11:48 am
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He certainly shouldn't, unless he wants to be the test case that possibly overturns Martinez-Fuerte, or perhaps strengthens the freedom-loving side of Brignoni-Ponce. Or screws us all and ends up creating a Supreme Court stamp of approval for papers please.