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SPB May 29, 2010 2:55 pm

Can a undocumented person travel within the U.S?
 
Alright kids,

I got a friend, whom happens to have a drives license, but he's undocumented. he got his license from IDAHO, they allow immigrants resident of their state get an State Issued Drives License.

So, can he use that to travel to NJ this summer with me?
Do they check his legal status or something? Or is he safe to travel?

P.S that ID is state issued id, so that means its a Gov-Issued ID.

Any feedback?


Thanks!
---Keep it real----

N1Hawk May 29, 2010 3:04 pm

I'm not an expert here for traveling, but I always thought traveling in the United States did not require you to carry a passport or ID as your not passing across any boarders into another country. Your just passing into another state?

I'll let another FT'er respond that's the best I can think of.

SPB May 29, 2010 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by N1Hawk (Post 14043872)
I'm not an expert here for traveling, but I always thought traveling in the United States did not require you to carry a passport or ID as your not passing across any boarders into another country. Your just passing into another state?

I'll let another FT'er respond that's the best I can think of.



Yes, we are going to New York!!! PARTY....but first he's got to get this stuff fixed. I really dont want to drive there from Idaho.

What about this thing call Real-ID benchmark?!
This is frustrating... :mad:

millsdale May 29, 2010 3:20 pm

I believe they should be fine with a valid drivers license.

mre5765 May 30, 2010 7:20 am

State issued driver's license is fine. However, the traveler should leave all evidence of being a non-U.S. citizen at home. Otherwise, if for some reason the traveler gets a secondary and the TSA finds evidence that the traveler is an illegal alien, he will be turned over to law enforcement.

See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...ml#post9605187

Batmanuel May 30, 2010 9:24 am

That's weird... Here's a quote from the Idaho DMV:


Lawful Presence -- You will also be required to provide proof of lawful presence if you are not a citizen or national of the United States. Acceptable lawful presence documents include:

Certified original U.S. Birth Certificate

Certification of Birth Abroad

Original Certificate of Naturalization/Citizenship

Permanent Resident card or Resident Alien card

Employment Authorization card

Valid Foreign passport with valid U.S. VISA and I-94 (Arrival/Departure record)
http://www.itd.idaho.gov/dmv/DriverS...ense_facts.htm

If your friend bought a fake ID, he will be caught and reported.

cparekh May 30, 2010 12:28 pm

As far as I understand it, there would no requirement to prove to anyone that he is legally in the country in order to fly from Idaho to New Jersey. They would simply present their ID at the security checkpoint and be on their way. That being said, your friend is breaking the law by being in this country illegally and could face consequences if they are stopped by law enforcement for some other reason.

SPB May 30, 2010 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by Batmanuel (Post 14046484)
That's weird... Here's a quote from the Idaho DMV:



http://www.itd.idaho.gov/dmv/DriverS...ense_facts.htm

If your friend bought a fake ID, he will be caught and reported.



No, it was not FAKE ID....he really got it. When you get over there, it says you need a SSN but you sing a thing, where it allows you to get one.

He has a clean record, no criminal background and hes only 19years old, doesnt look mexican or illegal.
All he needs is his Drives License and thats it than?

Ari May 30, 2010 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by SPB (Post 14048556)
No, it was not FAKE ID....he really got it. When you get over there, it says you need a SSN but you sing a thing, where it allows you to get one.

He has a clean record, no criminal background and hes only 19years old, doesnt look mexican or illegal.
All he needs is his Drives License and thats it than?

If it is a real, valid Idaho DL, all he needs is that. They will see him as a normal passenger, nothing special.

He should leave his passport and any documentation about his status or country of birth/citizenship at home.

(He should not fly out of Buffalo, NY, by the way. Don't worry about the "Real ID benchmark" thing-- ID's from all 50 states are valid for the time being).

SPB May 30, 2010 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 14048783)
If it is a real, valid Idaho DL, all he needs is that. They will see him as a normal passenger, nothing special.

He should leave his passport and any documentation about his status or country of birth/citizenship at home.

(He should not fly out of Buffalo, NY, by the way. Don't worry about the "Real ID benchmark" thing-- ID's from all 50 states are valid for the time being).


Why not fly from Buffalo NY?

snod08 May 30, 2010 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by SPB (Post 14048804)
Why not fly from Buffalo NY?

Because that airport is notorious for checking pax passport and papers (random occassions).

Ari May 30, 2010 8:02 pm


Originally Posted by SPB (Post 14048804)
Why not fly from Buffalo NY?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...tatus-buf.html

SPB May 30, 2010 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by snod08 (Post 14048810)
Because that airport is notorious for checking pax passport and papers (random occassions).

Interesting! :)
I think we are good to go than!!
I hope ill be fun! This would be his first time, my first time and my girl-friend first time!

goalie May 31, 2010 9:22 am


Originally Posted by SPB (Post 14043838)

Can a undocumented person travel within the U.S?
Alright kids,

I got a friend, whom happens to have a drives license, but he's undocumented. he got his license from IDAHO, they allow immigrants resident of their state get an State Issued Drives License.

So, can he use that to travel to NJ this summer with me?
Do they check his legal status or something? Or is he safe to travel?

P.S that ID is state issued id, so that means its a Gov-Issued ID.

Any feedback?


Thanks!
---Keep it real----

your friend will be fine as long as they do not get into any situation where someone (i.e. a leo) would have to run the d/l. if that happens, all bets are off as even if the d/s is valid, legal status could (n.b. could be) be determined but simply going to an airport and getting on a plane would not be a problem as long as the d/l is not fake as then the tdc's super duper black light would detect it and thus bring out the calling over of a leo

N1120A May 31, 2010 11:48 am


Originally Posted by SPB (Post 14048804)
Why not fly from Buffalo NY?


Originally Posted by snod08 (Post 14048810)
Because that airport is notorious for checking pax passport and papers (random occassions).

He certainly shouldn't, unless he wants to be the test case that possibly overturns Martinez-Fuerte, or perhaps strengthens the freedom-loving side of Brignoni-Ponce. Or screws us all and ends up creating a Supreme Court stamp of approval for papers please.


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