Undocumented immigrant with a valid state ID
Oct 5, 2011 | 1:59 am
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The WA state DOL does not check for the legal status, but it asks for a SSN and needs a state residency proof. AFAIK, the SSN requirement is waived only for legal non-immigrants who are not eligible for the number (e.g., F2, J2, H4, etc). Unless an illegal alien already has a SSN and can produce utility bills from Washington state in his/her name, it is impossible to get a WA driving licence without giving fraudulent information. Also, an applicant for a state DL/ID should still provide an acceptable proof of identity (matricula card is not accepted in WA). So, it is really easy to get a WA driving licence for visa-overstayers, but not for those who came here illegally.
Also, there are US citizens who do not have a SSN. IIRC, a large number of Amish-Americans were not issued a SSN, and a growing proportion of natural-born US citizens born outside of the US also do not have a SSN. Can't provide what is not had.
Last edited by GUWonder; Oct 5, 2011 at 2:06 am
Oct 5, 2011 | 10:03 am
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The WA state DOL does not check for the legal status, but it asks for a SSN and needs a state residency proof. AFAIK, the SSN requirement is waived only for legal non-immigrants who are not eligible for the number (e.g., F2, J2, H4, etc). Unless an illegal alien already has a SSN and can produce utility bills from Washington state in his/her name, it is impossible to get a WA driving licence without giving fraudulent information. Also, an applicant for a state DL/ID should still provide an acceptable proof of identity (matricula card is not accepted in WA). So, it is really easy to get a WA driving licence for visa-overstayers, but not for those who came here illegally.
Mar 2, 2015 | 1:16 pm
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Mar 2, 2015 | 1:22 pm
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Just normal security most commonly, but sometimes (at airports like SAN or ELP or BUF) there are immigration enforcement types asking people if they are a citizen or not.
Feb 27, 2017 | 9:46 pm
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Domestic flight with an AB60 California DL and a Mexican passport
Hello i been reading a few posts on the site about undocumented people flying domestically and i havent get a clear answer to my situation.
i live in california and i dont have a legal status in the us for the past 13 years. I been doing good at work that my boss wants me to go to school in wiscounsin for a week. And my big question is would my california AB60 drivers license and mexican passport be enought for this flight, from fresno ca to wiscounsin?
i live in california and i dont have a legal status in the us for the past 13 years. I been doing good at work that my boss wants me to go to school in wiscounsin for a week. And my big question is would my california AB60 drivers license and mexican passport be enought for this flight, from fresno ca to wiscounsin?
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Feb 28, 2017 | 8:42 am
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Sorry to say, but you would be taking a risk either way. Your AB60 only protects you when you're dealing with state and local law enforcement. You could get in trouble if you try to use it for a flight. If you used your passport, they may decide to be nosy, flip to the back pages and notice the lack of a visa.
On the other hand, you may get through just fine, as many undocumented people do each day. It really depends on the specific TSA officer you get. Just know that it's a risk.
On the other hand, you may get through just fine, as many undocumented people do each day. It really depends on the specific TSA officer you get. Just know that it's a risk.
Feb 28, 2017 | 11:06 am
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I do not want to scare anyone, but OP may also want to be cautious with Amtrak/Greyhound. In past years, I have read reports about officers coming in and questioning/searching the belongings of passengers in some instances.
I have not read about this in a while and do not know whether this still occurs, but it would not surprise me if it did.
I have not read about this in a while and do not know whether this still occurs, but it would not surprise me if it did.
Mar 1, 2017 | 6:04 pm
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An AB60 license technically wouldn't be a legal ID for TSA. A Mexican passport is most definitely a legal ID and they are used all the time at TSA checkpoints.
Mar 2, 2017 | 10:37 am
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I do not want to scare anyone, but OP may also want to be cautious with Amtrak/Greyhound. In past years, I have read reports about officers coming in and questioning/searching the belongings of passengers in some instances.
I have not read about this in a while and do not know whether this still occurs, but it would not surprise me if it did.
I have not read about this in a while and do not know whether this still occurs, but it would not surprise me if it did.
There's some small amount of risk, yes, but IMO less than there is in the airport, and only negligibly more than there is just moving about where you are.
Mar 6, 2017 | 11:42 pm
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The AB60 license is almost indistinguishable from a normal license, except for a notice saying "federal limits apply". I doubt TSA is going to notice or care, especially in another state. You can also use the Mexican passport, they usually don't check for visas. There is some risk involved here, but it is not substantial.
Mar 7, 2017 | 12:33 am
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