ID checker asking questions - name, destination etc.
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If you are going to vomit or otherwise release bodily fluids from the mouth, doing so at a TDC station at an airport is about as good a place as any for that.
I observed the query at JFK with a TSA employee trying to fish for information about ethnic, national and religious affiliations related to some name. A waste of everyone's time.
I observed the query at JFK with a TSA employee trying to fish for information about ethnic, national and religious affiliations related to some name. A waste of everyone's time.
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I think we should all learn to sign our name. It is incredibly easy to learn a few letters. It is what I will use if asked.
Here is a good chart to learn the letters.
I did hear about one experience of someone using signs at the TDC. The TDC did not know ASL and called the supervisor. The TDC said something on the order of "I need an interpreter as this person is deaf." The person said to the supervisor and the TDC " I did not say I was deaf. I just chose to communicate in signs."
Supervisor gave the magic squiggle and sent them on.
Here is a good chart to learn the letters.
I did hear about one experience of someone using signs at the TDC. The TDC did not know ASL and called the supervisor. The TDC said something on the order of "I need an interpreter as this person is deaf." The person said to the supervisor and the TDC " I did not say I was deaf. I just chose to communicate in signs."
Supervisor gave the magic squiggle and sent them on.
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That behavior is so far beyond the pale I can't even begin to categorize it.
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I wonder if writing it down is an acceptable alternative. It seems to me that if the point of this is to catch people who doesn't actually belong to the ID, then spelling the name (especially certain difficult to pronounce names) would be better than saying it.
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It's all utter nonsense anyway.
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lol... reminds me of the one and only time I saw a cute TSA screener. She was a TDC and had a distinctive last name on her name tag. I was able to find her on Facebook before I reached my gate. IIRC, she was a 19-year-old college girl working hard at 6 AM. FLL, which I stopped flying out of because of the NoS:WTMD ratio. Never sent her a message since I couldn't think of a non-creepy introduction, and no, I don't have the name saved and therefore can't re-locate the profile picture.
Anyway, I'm with you all on the refusing to say my name thing, but because of my aversion to stupidity, not for privacy reasons. I post my name, address, e-mail, and phone number on the Internet in my legal docs against the TSA, and nothing happens. At airports, there are a million guys with Rolexes (er, Rolicies? ), an even greater quantity of pretty women, etc., and there's no reason for anyone to rob/stalk/harass/etc. you in particular. Everyone's always watching out for the "new high-tech crime," but if one was looking for a victim, it would be 1,000x easier to simply find that victim on the street. It's kind of like how the TSA buys all this fancy equipment to look for the new high-tech terrorist while their failure rate for conventional weapons is something like 80%.
--Jon
Anyway, I'm with you all on the refusing to say my name thing, but because of my aversion to stupidity, not for privacy reasons. I post my name, address, e-mail, and phone number on the Internet in my legal docs against the TSA, and nothing happens. At airports, there are a million guys with Rolexes (er, Rolicies? ), an even greater quantity of pretty women, etc., and there's no reason for anyone to rob/stalk/harass/etc. you in particular. Everyone's always watching out for the "new high-tech crime," but if one was looking for a victim, it would be 1,000x easier to simply find that victim on the street. It's kind of like how the TSA buys all this fancy equipment to look for the new high-tech terrorist while their failure rate for conventional weapons is something like 80%.
--Jon
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lol... reminds me of the one and only time I saw a cute TSA screener. She was a TDC and had a distinctive last name on her name tag. I was able to find her on Facebook before I reached my gate. IIRC, she was a 19-year-old college girl working hard at 6 AM. FLL, which I stopped flying out of because of the NoS:WTMD ratio. Never sent her a message since I couldn't think of a non-creepy introduction, and no, I don't have the name saved and therefore can't re-locate the profile picture.
Anyway, I'm with you all on the refusing to say my name thing, but because of my aversion to stupidity, not for privacy reasons. I post my name, address, e-mail, and phone number on the Internet in my legal docs against the TSA, and nothing happens. At airports, there are a million guys with Rolexes (er, Rolicies? ), an even greater quantity of pretty women, etc., and there's no reason for anyone to rob/stalk/harass/etc. you in particular. Everyone's always watching out for the "new high-tech crime," but if one was looking for a victim, it would be 1,000x easier to simply find that victim on the street. It's kind of like how the TSA buys all this fancy equipment to look for the new high-tech terrorist while their failure rate for conventional weapons is something like 80%.
--Jon
Anyway, I'm with you all on the refusing to say my name thing, but because of my aversion to stupidity, not for privacy reasons. I post my name, address, e-mail, and phone number on the Internet in my legal docs against the TSA, and nothing happens. At airports, there are a million guys with Rolexes (er, Rolicies? ), an even greater quantity of pretty women, etc., and there's no reason for anyone to rob/stalk/harass/etc. you in particular. Everyone's always watching out for the "new high-tech crime," but if one was looking for a victim, it would be 1,000x easier to simply find that victim on the street. It's kind of like how the TSA buys all this fancy equipment to look for the new high-tech terrorist while their failure rate for conventional weapons is something like 80%.
--Jon
The requirements for passing security and getting on my plane should never be mysterious or haphazard. However, the whole process is shrouded in mystery. It appears to be an attempt at psychological manipulation, but I would hope that this is accidental and not purposeful. I would hate to suspect that we are that close to losing our remaining liberty.
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It also should not exclude a large segment of the travelling population from being able to voluntarily respond. Just like the AIT, this new process overlooks a large number of people who don't fit into the 'normal' slot.
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