ID checker asking questions - name, destination etc.
Jul 12, 2011, 1:24 pm
#198
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
Posts: 36,062
It doesn't apply to providing your name, as the restriction is against self-incrimination. However, I am aware of no legal basis for a TSO demanding any information from you. As others have noted, pronouncing your name is an invitation to potential thieves to look up your address and rob your house.
Jul 12, 2011, 1:33 pm
#199
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: UK
Programs: Co Gold
Posts: 210
It doesn't apply to providing your name, as the restriction is against self-incrimination. However, I am aware of no legal basis for a TSO demanding any information from you. As others have noted, pronouncing your name is an invitation to potential thieves to look up your address and rob your house.
Jul 12, 2011, 1:40 pm
#200
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
Posts: 36,062
So if I understand this right- if you turn up at the TDC with a fake boarding pass and / or ID that are NOT in your name then you could plead the 5th as pronouncing YOUR name would not match the BP / ID and would therefore be self-incriminatory, but if your have a valid BP / ID then you cannot refuse to pronounce your name.
Jul 12, 2011, 2:17 pm
#201
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 959
The big question is what recourse, legally speaking, does the TSO have if you choose to remain silent, or refuse to say your name in public.
If I, as a female, were travelling alone, I would refuse to state my name within earshot of any of the other passengers, but I would offer to either write it down and show it to the TDC, or whisper it into his/her ear to protect my privacy.
Jul 12, 2011, 2:21 pm
#202
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 28,121
Yes. For me it's 7 letters, totally phonetic, yet 90 percent of people transpose two letters in my name when they try to pronounce it. It's really bizarre.
Ugh - definitely PM me for the TSA contact at DFW - this is an issue that needs to be resolved.
I think if I am asked, I will say that I refuse to say my last name out loud due to security concerns. I am traveling out of town, and my name isn't very common, so it wouldn't take much for a nearby lurker to figure out my address. I will definitely complain if a TSO tries to loudly announce my name.
Ugh - definitely PM me for the TSA contact at DFW - this is an issue that needs to be resolved.
I think if I am asked, I will say that I refuse to say my last name out loud due to security concerns. I am traveling out of town, and my name isn't very common, so it wouldn't take much for a nearby lurker to figure out my address. I will definitely complain if a TSO tries to loudly announce my name.
Jul 12, 2011, 2:23 pm
#203
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
Posts: 36,062
The big question is what recourse, legally speaking, does the TSO have if you choose to remain silent, or refuse to say your name in public.
Jul 12, 2011, 2:23 pm
#204
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 28,121
It doesn't apply to providing your name, as the restriction is against self-incrimination. However, I am aware of no legal basis for a TSO demanding any information from you. As others have noted, pronouncing your name is an invitation to potential thieves to look up your address and rob your house.
Jul 12, 2011, 2:26 pm
#205
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
Posts: 36,062
Jul 12, 2011, 2:48 pm
#207
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 112
I wonder if I could pull off an Oscar winning performance... let my eyes slowly fill with tears, start to shake, then blurt out "I can't say my name out loud! A terrorist might hear then they'll look me up on Google and bomb my house!"
I mean, it's about as ridiculous of odds as a terrorist actually bombing my plane. Right? LOL. I'm liking it.
I mean, it's about as ridiculous of odds as a terrorist actually bombing my plane. Right? LOL. I'm liking it.
Jul 12, 2011, 3:54 pm
#209
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oceanside, CA
Programs: LT AAdvantage Gold
Posts: 539
Got the say you name treatment at DFW around the first of the year. I questioned why and got a ration of crap from the 2 stripper TSA employee. Complaints followed and still have not received a resolution from DFW TSA or higher.
Have been ground bound since but have trips scheduled over the next three months so will be checking out DFW, FLL, and LAS TSA Ops.
Have been ground bound since but have trips scheduled over the next three months so will be checking out DFW, FLL, and LAS TSA Ops.
Jul 12, 2011, 4:01 pm
#210
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095