Damaged Indentification
Jun 12, 2010 | 4:27 am
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Jun 12, 2010 | 5:14 am
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I use the quick reply by clicking on the pencil-paper icon. Can't you tell that its not for you? Plus, unless you can find something related to what YOU wrote, isn't it rather silly to assume it is aimed at you? Why do I have to do everyone else's thinking for them?
Jun 13, 2010 | 8:56 am
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Yeah, notice the OP did reply why, and there was no response to that. LOL
For the $11, I probably would have replaced it. But back when it was damaged a number of years back, the options were that DPS replaced it for the $11 if it was damaged beyond repair, but that if it was still valid (I.E. data not obscured), you had to get a full renewal, which was significantly more.
As I said, telling them I lost it after I had just showed it to them wouldn't be too bright. And who wants to go back and stand in a DPS line again just because TSA doesn't know what they're doing?
As I said above, nuts to that. I just smile and nod at the ignorant TDC, knowing he/she can't do anything about it, and get on with my life.
For the $11, I probably would have replaced it. But back when it was damaged a number of years back, the options were that DPS replaced it for the $11 if it was damaged beyond repair, but that if it was still valid (I.E. data not obscured), you had to get a full renewal, which was significantly more.
As I said, telling them I lost it after I had just showed it to them wouldn't be too bright. And who wants to go back and stand in a DPS line again just because TSA doesn't know what they're doing?
As I said above, nuts to that. I just smile and nod at the ignorant TDC, knowing he/she can't do anything about it, and get on with my life.
Jun 13, 2010 | 8:48 pm
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TSO1973:
What is "the needed info"? What would it mean for someone to not be "good to go"?
What is "the needed info"? What would it mean for someone to not be "good to go"?
Jun 13, 2010 | 10:52 pm
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Yeh, you're right, once you've shown it to someone, you're screwed. Sad story. But I guess you painted yourself into a corner. I still say the fees for a new license are pathetically small. Not sure why a thread is warranted, but..............yeh it is ONE MORE thing to flay TSA for. I guess that's a reward all by itself, wot?
I just read through the thread. People are very sympathetic, lot more than me, but what is the solution? Has anyone arrived at one? Solutions beat sympathy in the real world.
I just read through the thread. People are very sympathetic, lot more than me, but what is the solution? Has anyone arrived at one? Solutions beat sympathy in the real world.
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Jun 14, 2010 | 2:15 am
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mrcav started the thread with a question-- perhaps he was out of town and he had a damaged ID and wanted to know if it was a problem with the TSA. JoeBas just posted his experience and was not asking for any solution at all, though you were happy to tell him to lie to get a new license for a reduced fee.
I don't see where anyone knocked the TSA in this thread . . . anywhere . . . at all. Can you point to a place?
Solution for JoeBas (unsolicited): Pay the necessary fee or live with your damaged license. Or pay for an ID card to have with your license if TX allows both like many states do.
Answer for the OP (solicited): No problem with the TSA, but you may have to deal with some attitude.
Answer for the OP (solicited): No problem with the TSA, but you may have to deal with some attitude.
Jun 14, 2010 | 3:45 am
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Probably screwed till he gets back home and has access to other ID. One thing it tells me is what a good idea it was to carry a color photocopy of my passport when I last went to Europe. Supposedly you can arrange for replacement while on the trip, but how much nicer NOT to have to do that. Maybe a backup of some kind is good when on a trip.
Jun 14, 2010 | 5:01 am
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Probably screwed till he gets back home and has access to other ID. One thing it tells me is what a good idea it was to carry a color photocopy of my passport when I last went to Europe. Supposedly you can arrange for replacement while on the trip, but how much nicer NOT to have to do that. Maybe a backup of some kind is good when on a trip.
My DL was in my wallet when my house burned down; one end of it melted, but the rest of it was okay because air couldn't get to it. None of the data is obfuscated . . .
So I fly with it. But I'd say about 20-25% of the TDC's I encounter tell me that they'll "Let me slide this time, but I need to get it replaced". Like they know.
So I fly with it. But I'd say about 20-25% of the TDC's I encounter tell me that they'll "Let me slide this time, but I need to get it replaced". Like they know.
His ID is chipped with no info missing; a TSO says it is OK; another poster says he is able to fly with his damaged ID. Again, how is the OP screwed?
Jun 28, 2010 | 9:15 am
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TSO1973: What info is needed? What does "good to go" mean?
TSO1973:
What is "the needed info"? What would it mean for someone to not be "good to go"?
What is "the needed info"? What would it mean for someone to not be "good to go"?
Jun 28, 2010 | 8:50 pm
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I believe it would be the following:
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...documents.shtm
Not have an ID with that information on it?
I'm sure TSO1973 will return to this thread to confirm . . .
Effective June 21, 2008, adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID that contains the following: name, date of birth, gender, expiration date and a tamper-resistant feature in order to be allowed to go through the checkpoint and onto their flight.
Not have an ID with that information on it?
I'm sure TSO1973 will return to this thread to confirm . . .
Jun 28, 2010 | 8:59 pm
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Needed info would be things like name, gender, expiration date, is the person in the picture the same as the person presenting it to me, and the various features that make ID's much harder to forge, like the holograms and microprint....
Jun 28, 2010 | 9:15 pm
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Effective June 21, 2008, adult passengers (18 and over) are required to show a U.S. federal or state-issued photo ID that contains the following: name, date of birth, gender, expiration date and a tamper-resistant feature in order to be allowed to go through the checkpoint and onto their flight.
Passengers who do not or cannot present an acceptable ID will have to provide information to the Transportation Security Officer performing Travel Document Checking duties in order to verify their identity.
Jun 28, 2010 | 9:26 pm
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The paragraph directly after the one you quoted on the TSA page contradicts the first, explaining that passengers are not required to show such a photo ID:
Can you please be specific? You've implied that certain information must be visible on someone's identity credentials in order for someone to be "good to go". Yet presentation of such credentials is not required. I want to know what you think is required, and what it would mean for someone not to be "good to go".
Can you please be specific? You've implied that certain information must be visible on someone's identity credentials in order for someone to be "good to go". Yet presentation of such credentials is not required. I want to know what you think is required, and what it would mean for someone not to be "good to go".