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mrcav Jun 9, 2010 8:09 pm

Damaged Indentification
 
Hello,

I will be flying soon from LAX to SFO and my part of my ID is chipped. The part that is chipped didn't contain any information. Do you think that I will have any problems with TSA?

TSO1973 Jun 9, 2010 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by mrcav (Post 14107634)
Hello,

I will be flying soon from LAX to SFO and my part of my ID is chipped. The part that is chipped didn't contain any information. Do you think that I will have any problems with TSA?

You shouldn't have any issues. We see damaged ID's pretty often. I've had some handed to me that were almost broken in half. So long as the needed info is visible and there's no signs of tampering, should be good to go. :)

JoeBas Jun 10, 2010 3:17 pm

Just be prepared for some possible snotty attitude.

My DL was in my wallet when my house burned down; one end of it melted, but the rest of it was okay because air couldn't get to it. None of the data is obfuscated, so DPS won't issue me a replacement without another license fee - nuts to that.

So I fly with it. But I'd say about 20-25% of the TDC's I encounter tell me that they'll "Let me slide this time, but I need to get it replaced". Like they know.

davef139 Jun 10, 2010 5:38 pm

You shouldn't have any problems my ID is cracked down the center a good 3/4 of the way. I have yet to get any problems. Lady at IAH asked what happened and at MSP they took a magnifyer to it, at ORD the lady just commented how beat it was.

I would think aslong as the protective filming on them isn't peeling you will be fine, even if its cracked over some data. My ID also isn't scanable too as I had trouble in Iowa a year ago trying to get into a casino boat.
If they do say something I always tell them it expires at end of 2010 so I get a new one soon.

N965VJ Jun 10, 2010 6:20 pm

Welcome to FlyerTalk! :)


Originally Posted by mrcav (Post 14107634)
I will be flying soon from LAX to SFO and my part of my ID is chipped. The part that is chipped didn't contain any information.

Is is clipped because it's expired?

Ari Jun 10, 2010 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 14113250)
Is is clipped because it's expired?

When I have seen them do that, they punch it through the expiration date. I have never seen them just clip a corner or some such thing.

pmocek Jun 11, 2010 1:48 am


Originally Posted by TSO1973 (Post 14107707)
We see damaged ID's pretty often. I've had some handed to me that were almost broken in half. So long as the needed info is visible and there's no signs of tampering, should be good to go.

What is "the needed info"? What would it mean for someone to not be "good to go"?

LuvAirFrance Jun 11, 2010 1:57 am


Originally Posted by JoeBas (Post 14112388)
Just be prepared for some possible snotty attitude.

My DL was in my wallet when my house burned down; one end of it melted, but the rest of it was okay because air couldn't get to it. None of the data is obfuscated, so DPS won't issue me a replacement without another license fee - nuts to that.

So I fly with it. But I'd say about 20-25% of the TDC's I encounter tell me that they'll "Let me slide this time, but I need to get it replaced". Like they know.

Um, so you didn't tell them you lost it in which case they'd be glad to replace it? That's what I've done with cards of various kinds.

Ari Jun 11, 2010 3:27 am


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14114655)
Um, so you didn't tell them you lost it in which case they'd be glad to replace it?

Are you saying JoeBas should have lied?

LuvAirFrance Jun 11, 2010 3:49 am

I guess you can call it that, but the bureaucracy apparently is making it necessary. And it will charge him, so I can't see any particular "moral turpitude" such as you are suggesting. Face it, people, you need to adapt to survive. Instead of that, you want to make these sissy protests. Better to get sympathy than just to get on with, is that the way you think?

Ari Jun 11, 2010 8:00 am


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14114875)
I guess you can call it that, but the bureaucracy apparently is making it necessary.

Now I understand; the ends justify the means.


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14114875)
And it will charge him, so I can't see any particular "moral turpitude" such as you are suggesting.

I wasn't aware I was suggesting that; can you point to where I suggested that?


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14114875)
Face it, people, you need to adapt to survive. Instead of that, you want to make these sissy protests. Better to get sympathy than just to get on with, is that the way you think?

Whoa! What sissy protest am I making exactly? I asked a simple question; you could have just answered "yes" rather than written a treatise on why it is necessary "to adapt to survive" payment of an $11 fee intertwined with personal attacks.

And, if you bothered to do your homework, you'd know that the TX DPS charges for a replacement for any reason, lost/stolen included, rendering your proposed lie useless:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/dlfees.htm


DL / Instruction Permit Duplicates
(Replacement of lost, stolen DL/Permit or change of name, or remove restriction on DL or Permit) . . . $11.00

JoeBas Jun 11, 2010 9:11 am


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14114655)
Um, so you didn't tell them you lost it in which case they'd be glad to replace it? That's what I've done with cards of various kinds.

A little tough to tell them I lost it when I'd just showed it to them when asking if I needed a new one... :confused:

LuvAirFrance Jun 11, 2010 8:23 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 14115630)
And, if you bothered to do your homework, you'd know that the TX DPS charges for a replacement for any reason, lost/stolen included, rendering your proposed lie useless:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/dlfees.htm

Who needs "homework"? That's standard every place I've ever lived. So, you pay because you had a misfortune that damaged your ID. Wow, that's a catastrophe, isn't it? How often do you fly? What does that cost? Why are you willing to fork out that money but not a piddling amount for a new ID card? But, gosh, its one more way to complain about TSA, and one can't let those slide by.

Ari Jun 12, 2010 12:59 am


Originally Posted by JoeBas (Post 14112388)
My DL was in my wallet when my house burned down; one end of it melted, but the rest of it was okay because air couldn't get to it. None of the data is obfuscated, so DPS won't issue me a replacement without another license fee - nuts to that.


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14114655)
Um, so you didn't tell them you lost it in which case they'd be glad to replace it? That's what I've done with cards of various kinds.

How does your suggestion above help the OP? He wants it replaced without a fee, or did you miss that?


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14119185)
Who needs "homework"? That's standard every place I've ever lived. So, you pay because you had a misfortune that damaged your ID. Wow, that's a catastrophe, isn't it? How often do you fly? What does that cost?

That was the OP's issue. You suggested a non-solution to the OP's problem-- one that involved telling a lie. Perhaps you didn't read the OP correctly, or perhaps you were unable to give him any useful advice so you just spouted random advice?

I'm still trying to understand how "you didn't tell them you lost it" is a response to "DPS won't issue me a replacement without another license fee[/U][/B] - nuts to that".


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14119185)
Why are you willing to fork out that money but not a piddling amount for a new ID card?

You'd have to ask the OP that, but since you don't quote other posts in your posts, I have no idea whom you are asking.


Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance (Post 14119185)
But, gosh, its one more way to complain about TSA, and one can't let those slide by.

Actually, mrcav asked a question regarding his future travel, and TSO1973, JoeBas and davef139 provided answers. Then pmocek and N965VJ asked related questions and I responded to N965VJ with my related experience.

I can't find a single place in this thread where someone complained about the TSA unless you consider "just be prepared for some possible snotty attitude" to be a complaint. If that's the case, you have a very low threshold.

LuvAirFrance Jun 12, 2010 1:40 am


You'd have to ask the OP that, but since you don't quote other posts in your posts, I have no idea whom you are asking.
Yet, you jump in as if it were you. News flash: It wasn't!!!


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