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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
And please record the interaction (ala Steve Bierfeldt) for the entertainment education of your fellow FTs.

I won't criticize your Quenya accent. Really, I won't.
Despite reading LOTR, and the appendices, more than 10 times, I still have no guess on how to properly pronounce Quenya, or even Sindarin, especially how to accent multisyllabic words. "A man's got to know his limitations."
Therefore, I will not be trying this approach any time soon at a checkpoint.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by SomeGuy
That's not necessarily true. Read this story from 1999...

http://www.deadhero.com/ramblings/1999/cursing/

Long story short, the guy was charged for cursing in front of a female, which was a 100 year old law that he broke.

A Michigan appellate court reversed the man's conviction, holding the statute an unconstitutionally vague restriction on speech. http://articles.latimes.com/2002/apr/02/news/mn-35828

TSA should take note of this concept, First Amendment, free speech.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by DevilDog438
However, my purchasing an airline ticket does not bind me to a government contract compulsively limiting my freedom of expression/speech. TSA personnel attempting to stifle comment are oppressing/violating protected rights under color of authority and deserved to be challenged every time they do so.

^^ Putting on a tin badge doesn't give a TSO the authority to suspend the First Amendment.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 5:43 am
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Originally Posted by Dan_E

I would suggest letting little things like that getting the OPs panties in a bunch is a sure way to an anuerism, or HBP at a minimum.
Public disputes over the TSA garbage at airports may actually be good for the health and much better than shutting up and putting up with TSA garbage at airports:

http://www.livescience.com/health/08...se-fights.html
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by Jcd2147
You wouldn't scream fire in a movie theater or yell bomb in an airport would you?
What the OP mentioned is not the same thing as screaming fire in a crowded movie theater or yelling bomb in an airport.

Originally Posted by Jcd2147
I guess the point I was trying to make earlier is to do what you are told/asked. Are most requests/questions pointless? Yes. But annoying a screener will not make security any faster for you or the people behind you.
Not everyone is a surrender monkey who responds to an order to "Jump!" with "How high, sir?!?" or otherwise acts like a lemming. Slowing down or stopping people from acting like lemmings isn't a bad thing.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 6:32 am
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What the OP mentioned is not the same thing as screaming fire in a crowded movie theater or yelling bomb in an airport.

This was a question for someone else, not the OP. Be that as it may, PTravel stepped in and answered the question.


Not everyone is a surrender monkey who responds to an order to "Jump!" with "How high, sir?!?" or otherwise acts like a lemming. Slowing down or stopping people from acting like lemmings isn't a bad thing.
Surrender monkey? Lemming? Yeah, it's quite obvious you don't know me. I fail to see how not answering a casual "where are you going today" question will change the system. You don't like the questions or tone of the TSO, then call for a supervisor or LEO.

Sorry I didn't grow up in Berkley wearing birkenstocks looking to stick it to the man every chance I got, maaannn.

The funny thing is some of the same people that want to show their intelligence by name calling are probably the same ones that were drinking Obama flavored kool-aid in 08'.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by n4zhg
Yes, and the guy got about $20K from the subsequent lawsuit. Too bad it didn't come out of the cop's wallet.

This is settled case law at the supreme court level over 40 years old, people.
Any cop that pulls this stunt deserves the 20 molar sulfuric acid enema he's going to get.
I wonder what he netted after attorney fees, other legal fees, and time off work.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by MrClean
I wonder what he netted after attorney fees, other legal fees, and time off work.
If you are really interested in knowing that, have you tried to find out by now?

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Surrender monkey? Lemming? Yeah, it's quite obvious you don't know me.
This is not about you, so why do you post above as if it is?

Originally Posted by Jcd2147
I fail to see how not answering a casual "where are you going today" question will change the system. You don't like the questions or tone of the TSO, then call for a supervisor or LEO.
.... or just ignore the TSA's stupid questions and/or otherwise toy with the TSA.

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Sorry I didn't grow up in Berkley wearing birkenstocks looking to stick it to the man every chance I got, maaannn.
It doesn't sound like anyone here was raised in the manner you suggest.

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The funny thing is some of the same people that want to show their intelligence by name calling are probably the same ones that were drinking Obama flavored kool-aid in 08'.
The TSA is still the TSA and it's still receiving the criticism it deserves in all the years since its inception.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 7:06 am
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This is not about you, so why do you post above as if it is?


When you quote me and then respond to my quote how should I take it? If not about me then who are you talking about?
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 7:13 am
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Thumbs up

There was an incident back in 2006 in Pittsburgh where a guy flipped off a police officer. Got a disorderly conduct ticket, fought it, and won. Got $10k for this troubles, the ACLU got $40k.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11...y5760527.shtml
http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/le...get-10000.html
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by Jcd2147
Yeah, it's quite obvious you don't know me. . .
Sorry I didn't grow up in Berkley wearing birkenstocks looking to stick it to the man every chance I got, maaannn.

The funny thing is some of the same people that want to show their intelligence by name calling are probably the same ones that were drinking Obama flavored kool-aid in 08'.
Oh, I think we know you.

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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:22 pm
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Jcd2147
Sorry I didn't grow up in Berkley wearing birkenstocks looking to stick it to the man every chance I got, maaannn.
I grew up in the USSR (hardly Berkley), where the authorities spent a considerable amount of effort trying to make me into a lemming and an atheist. I rejected both of those.

Now, back to the topic. As a Christian, I find profanity, especially taking God's name in vain, highly offensive. However, I recognize that it is protected by the very same First Amendment that protects my right to worship God.

My preference would be to find other forms of civil disobedience than using foul language. That said, TSOs or LEOs have no right to retaliate when it is used.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775
Quenya would be even better, since it is more obsolete than Sindarin. Or reply in Wookie.
I prefer Pig Latin when conversing with the TSA:

"Ogay ewscray ourselfyay, ouyay oronmay"

Translations can be had here:Pig Latin/English Translator
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by jkhuggins

Because anything you say can be used against you, no matter how innocuous it sounds.
Originally Posted by Jcd2147
Which would be all the more reason to answer a simple question, no? .
Nope. Others have explained this issue better than I, so I'll just link you to them:


Don't Talk to the Police (Professor James Duane)



Don't Talk to the Police (Officer George Bruch)
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