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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
Yeah, I tried to tell people that this sop wasn't really important, out dated, no "our" sop. Then I gave up. Let people have their fun.

So if it wasn't "really important" why have people been suspended?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:08 pm
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So if it wasn't "really important" why have people been suspended?
You assume what is important to me to do my job and keep what info I need to remain SSI is the same as every other TSA employee??
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
So if it wasn't "really important" why have people been suspended?
Falsifying their computer skills on their resume, perhaps?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by IslandBased
Falsifying their computer skills on their resume, perhaps?
Lol that might be true!
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
You assume what is important to me to do my job and keep what info I need to remain SSI is the same as every other TSA employee??
So you job description and duties are different than "every other TSA"

SATTSO--- the "Lone Ranger of TSO's"
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
So you job description and duties are different than "every other TSA"

SATTSO--- the "Lone Ranger of TSO's"
Have you not read anything I've said?

And, uh, no, I am a TSO, so what I have said is true. For some reason you don't seem to be able to understand that; or you don't want to. Are you dense by choice?

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
Have you not read anything I've said?
I ignore you actually, because if you didn'tpost so much i wouldn't believe you worked for the TSA, but since you are on here every second of every day, I do believe you.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
Have you not read anything I've said?

And, uh, no, I am a TSO, so whY I have said is true.
Yes, have you?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:50 pm
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If the SOP information is sensitive, then classify it. SSI = CYA

Originally Posted by ND Sol
If it doesn't reveal anything, then why was the info SSI?
Better question: if the information was sensitive, and if releasing it risks national security, then why wasn't it classified?

From another thread:
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
The major difference is that real classified information has a real Executive Order (EO 12958) which describes what to classify, what NOT to classify, WHO can classify, when to conduct a mandatory downgrade/declassification review, top-level guidelines for CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET, and TOP SECRET information, and penalties for screwing up. The penalties cover infractions not limited to unauthorized disclosure. Penalties are also inplace for overclassifying something, not conducting mandatory reviews, and deliberately classifying something to prevent embarassment to one's agency or to keep unclassified information from Congress or the public. All of this stuff pertains to collateral classified information. Compartmented and Special Access programs have their own additional EOs and agency regulations.

LES/FOUO/SBU/SSI have none of these guidelines or restrictions. There are no criteria for creating this type of information, no paragraph marking requirements, no derivative document, no downgrading instructions, etc. If this stuff is truly sensitive beyond a precinct and is determined to cause damage to national security if disclosed, for Pete's sake, classify it the right way.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Tom M.
Yes, have you?
Yeah, I have. You called me jokingly the lone ranger of TSOs. Notice that word, TSO. What was post was the Management SOP. What in the world would make you assume this is the SOP for the TSOs?
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Originally Posted by u2beez
I ignore you actually, because if you didn'tpost so much i wouldn't believe you worked for the TSA, but since you are on here every second of every day, I do believe you.
Lol ok
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
You assume what is important to me to do my job .... is the same as every other TSA employee??
every other TSA employee.....


and maybe you can explain "so whY I have said is true."

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 1:53 pm
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isn't this really the wrong thread? shouldn't the question be "Any noticeable checkpoint differences when you whipped out your bound copy of the SOP and pointed to exactly where they were wrong?"
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by avsfan733
... when you whipped out your bound copy of the SOP and pointed to exactly where they were wrong?"

Actually an interesting point.

I wonder what would happen if you through a copy in a bin as you went through security?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much View Post
Penalties are also inplace for overclassifying something, not conducting mandatory reviews, and deliberately classifying something to prevent embarassment to one's agency or to keep unclassified information from Congress or the public.
After reading the mandatory requirements of the SOP placed on TSO management, the highlighted appears to be one intent of the SSI classification. The mushroom concept;keep them in the dark and feed them B.S.

Post after post on this site indicates events,actions and TSO statements in direct violation of the requirements that must be implemented and fulfilled by management.

Hopefully the new guest visitors(hopefully reporters,federal investigators, Senate and Congressional Aides) will read and research the complete Travel Safety/Security section rather than just the SOP thread. Then present questions to TSO management about the apparent conflict between what is being said and done and what must be done.
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