K Chang (Former EVA chairman) and His New Starlux Airlines
#61




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Cosmile doesn't seem particularly exciting at the moment, but it seems that for their status match, if you do it before 2021, you will get 4 years of status. Based on their current routes, I can't see many people gaining status from flying, and they would at least want some people to use the lounges since there's 8 business class seats per flight.
Seems like they are setting things up for the future, will be interesting to see if/how the program evolves if the airline sees success.
Seems like they are setting things up for the future, will be interesting to see if/how the program evolves if the airline sees success.
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Cosmile doesn't seem particularly exciting at the moment, but it seems that for their status match, if you do it before 2021, you will get 4 years of status. Based on their current routes, I can't see many people gaining status from flying, and they would at least want some people to use the lounges since there's 8 business class seats per flight.
The lounge area in TPE is not large so I don't think it mattered. They are using the original spot from Thai in Terminal 1.
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Looks like they are off to a challenging start as they are suspending MFM due to the WuHan Coronavirus. I am glad K Chang has the deep pocket - although EVA Air stock has dropped a lot on the first trading day after the Chinese New Year.
There are a lot of youtube videos from bloggers who flew them their first days of operation. Here is one in English and on a longer flight (TPE-PEN) rather than those who only did TPE-MFM-TPE:
There are a lot of youtube videos from bloggers who flew them their first days of operation. Here is one in English and on a longer flight (TPE-PEN) rather than those who only did TPE-MFM-TPE:
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Well, TW news reporting that JX is suspending their Da Nan route due to Covid-19. So, they are not flying at all for a few weeks.
On the bright side, the TW Court just ruled Y F Chang's will is valid and K Chang can get the NT$14B (US$460M) inheritance. However, probably will be tied up in court for years. https://udn.com/news/story/7321/4423686 and https://udn.com/news/story/7321/4423446
On the bright side, the TW Court just ruled Y F Chang's will is valid and K Chang can get the NT$14B (US$460M) inheritance. However, probably will be tied up in court for years. https://udn.com/news/story/7321/4423686 and https://udn.com/news/story/7321/4423446
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MFM and OKA are some of the most competitive destinations from TPE, and as a result the fares have always been among the lowest. While this looks like a good move to increase awareness of their brand before the A350s arrive, I don't think it's going to make them much money. I hope they know what they're doing (and have enough cash to burn through).
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I am puzzled by their recent news:
8x A330-900NEO will be leased from 2021 Q4
A350 Series will be further delayed till 2022 Q1
1 additional A350-900 will be leased, making the total number of aircraft 10 (35K remains at 8).
3 additional A321NEO will be leased, making the total number of aircraft 13.
So in total they are leasing an additional 12 aircraft, albeit the long haul A350 series will be delayed by at least a quarter, which I don't have any idea why would they do that now during a pandemic.
Ambitious? Arrogant?
8x A330-900NEO will be leased from 2021 Q4
A350 Series will be further delayed till 2022 Q1
1 additional A350-900 will be leased, making the total number of aircraft 10 (35K remains at 8).
3 additional A321NEO will be leased, making the total number of aircraft 13.
So in total they are leasing an additional 12 aircraft, albeit the long haul A350 series will be delayed by at least a quarter, which I don't have any idea why would they do that now during a pandemic.
Ambitious? Arrogant?
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Still it's puzzling to me as well, considering they are positioning their product as a premium offering and the A350s seem like the perfect way to establish themselves in this segment, whereas A339's key advantage, as I understand it, is cost-per-seat reduction partly through additional capacity, which depends on planes filling up, and shouldn't be a primary concern anyway now that the fuel prices have fallen.
Unless they were able to obtain some other benefits by agreeing to postpone the orders/switching them with another customer I can't really see the rationale for this. I'd think doing the opposite and prioritizing A350 deliveries even if it meant having to run them short-haul would make more sense for the airline.
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Looks like they aren't expecting an early rebound for long-haul travel then?
Still it's puzzling to me as well, considering they are positioning their product as a premium offering and the A350s seem like the perfect way to establish themselves in this segment, whereas A339's key advantage, as I understand it, is cost-per-seat reduction partly through additional capacity, which depends on planes filling up, and shouldn't be a primary concern anyway now that the fuel prices have fallen.
Unless they were able to obtain some other benefits by agreeing to postpone the orders/switching them with another customer I can't really see the rationale for this. I'd think doing the opposite and prioritizing A350 deliveries even if it meant having to run them short-haul would make more sense for the airline.
Still it's puzzling to me as well, considering they are positioning their product as a premium offering and the A350s seem like the perfect way to establish themselves in this segment, whereas A339's key advantage, as I understand it, is cost-per-seat reduction partly through additional capacity, which depends on planes filling up, and shouldn't be a primary concern anyway now that the fuel prices have fallen.
Unless they were able to obtain some other benefits by agreeing to postpone the orders/switching them with another customer I can't really see the rationale for this. I'd think doing the opposite and prioritizing A350 deliveries even if it meant having to run them short-haul would make more sense for the airline.


