This *bannter* should be bunted over to OMNI...

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Stuff like this should be kept to Omni.

Unfortunately - - OMNI is moderated...

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jfe: Mine says moderator and I am not sure why

ScottC: I like Dovsters idea, perhaps the title "Banned before" would be better, or a number "banned X times"


It can't be done, Scott. The thread mentions both moderators and banning and both subjects are off limits on Omni.

Then may I suggest that if we kept 'on-topic' about moderators
and banning, then there would not be calls for moving the banter
to OMNI.

But if we want to banter about with abandon, then OMNI is the
place. Unfortunately, as I said before, OMNI is moderated.

ORP, however, is unmoderated - - so it is easy to make ORP what-
ever any poster wants to make it, and to cross the line and make
ORP just like OMNI (and fortunately for some posters, unmoderated).


My alternative definition for 'ORP' is here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...5&postcount=21

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IJK, all F/T Boards are basically places for serious discussions but I don't think any of them, including ORP, exclude harmless humor.

I certainly hope that none do -- it certainly relieves the tension and makes life more enjoyable. I would not be at all surprised if Randy enjoys going to his forum and finding some jokes there instead of the usual fare of bitter complaints.

I'm sure he love the occassional joke, but there ARE limits to everything.

I don't really disagree, but members joking amongst themselves (and
feeling good about their prowess to do so) is one thing, but there is
a point to remember:

ORP is not a place for members to banter, off-topic, about anything
and everything - - that is OMNI.

(Even in OMNI, being off-topic is supposedly frowned upon...)


ORP is a place to address the owner of this space, and the owner of
all FT space. I feel it is bad manners to ignore the intended recipient
of these posts and go on to whatever whims of fancy one might have
and satisfy the need to converse and banter with other members,
disregarding the person whom this is meant to be for.

I can imagine that Randy is interested in hearing about different points
of view here, as they relate to the topics posted here - - - - that are
addressed to Randy, and address the concern of the OP.

I can't imagine that it serves the purpose that this space (the ORP
forum) was created for - - if it is full of chaff and difficult to separate
the wheat from the chaff.

While none of us can speak for Randy, it is only proper to keep decorum
and limit the discussion to what the recipient might want to hear (keep
to the topic) and not address other members banter and comments that
are not addressing the topic, or to Randy.

Unless we are informed otherwise, it is prudent to act with respect, and
not take liberties just because we feel like it, or that we can. That is
too much like OMNI. I believe that other posters have expressed this
view in this thread recently as well.

Unfortunately, this IS off-topic, but said with respect to what some of
us feel would reflect and help the intent of ORP.


Having said that, I don't know if anyone here can definitively say what
the intent of ORP is, but some of us feel that if we don't know the intent,
we shouldn't be the ones to make new definitions by exploring the limits
of possibility without any self-restraint, or thought about the effect of
our actions.


I apologize for being off topic, but the posts that comment on ORP
becoming like OMNI do have a point that could be addressed here...

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What nonsense.....Randy will determine when a thread goes "stale dated" and will usually cut it off at that point in time. That's enough control I would think.

Yes, I'm sure that there may come a time to do that.

But why create the need to prematurely 'stale-date' a thread
with excess folderol?

I would hate to think that we live in a world where everyone
acts like little children and expect controls and limits to be
used by 'someone else', and have no thoughts of self-control...

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Well we do live in that world unfortunately

Like the ones about omni, leftists and moderation?

Yeah, or like the ones about people who made jokes out of themselves when they were discovered to have dinged almost everyone on the board.

Yeah, and to think they turned off the reputation future before I had a chance to ding everyone.

Yes, unfortunately, part of the world is like that - - but that does not
mean that all of it automatically should be the same, and dragged down
to the lowest common denominator. That is why we should exercise
some amount of reasoned self-restraint, so that every place does not
become a competition of who cries the longest and loudest...

I suspect that Randy has either a reason to leave this forum generally
unmoderated (as a reserve container for the blow-off from other areas
of FT, such as OMNI), or simply does not have the time to 'moderate'
a forum meant for public communication with him.

I'm sure that he has enough full-time jobs, including moderating OMNI,
administration of all of FT, and other endeavors, to have have any time,
or inclination, left over to 'moderate' ORP for those of us who wish to
see if we can push the limits, expecting that 'someone' will moderate us.

I don't see that logic of us having free will, and 'having our way' with
this forum, just because no-one is stopping us.....yet.

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