Another thought... Though it could be argued that Life Status does not directly relate to Emerald status, it does relate to what happens after having Emerald for a few years - maybe thus have a comment or section on that too FLYGVA ? If I was a person looking at the chart deciding which prog. to attempt to get Emerald in, knowing which prog. gets me Life status (of what ever type/level) after a few years of Emerald status and which ones don't would be very useful information.

And it certainly is worth mentioning if any OW carriers give you Emerald for life - AA and QF for e.g. only offer OW Sapphire equiv. Life status (AA Life Platinum / QF Life Gold) : do any OW carriers offer an option of earning Emerald for life I wonder ? (Maybe OW rules don't let any of the airlines do it !)

(You regretting taking on this project yet FLYGVA ?!? ).

Great work!
Although I generally do not fly AY, I have to comment. First of all, it is called Platinum, not Diamond. You get 12 complimentary upgrades intra-Europe, or 4 Intercontinental upgrades, etc etc. There is quite a lot of information on their webpage. Have a look!

Finnair Plus Platinum benefits page

That's a good point. I will see, how I can get this into the chart the best way. In the moment I think about a line with liftetime neede miles and lifetime status.

Well, not yet - ask me in a month again

Thanks, off course you're right.

I have looked into it and noticed, that I put this information in the wrong chart (and ask myself why I did not notice it earlier). I try to add / change this information as soon as possible.

Nice work Flygva.

Would just change the QF upgrade explanations:

Upgrade Domestic: unconfirmed STANDBY only, miles only, requires high fare-class, about 12000 dep on dist

Upgrade International: unconfirmed STANDBY only, miles only, about 56000 dep on dist


QF upgrades are all standby (pls don't use QF's weasel-words "on departure"). They are also very expensive eg to standby for an upgrade each way LHR-SIN-LHR would cost 112,000 miles, more than the J-award-for the route on most FF programs.

QF miles for one-way upgrade
zone 1 to 600mi 8,000
zone 2 to 1200mi 12,000
zone 3 to 2400mi 16,000 eg SYD-PER
zone 4 to 3600mi 24,000
zone 5 to 4800mi 40,000
zone 6 to 5800mi 48,000
zone 7 to 7000mi 56,000 eg LHR-SIN
zone 8 to 8400mi 72,000 eg SYD-LAX
zone 9 to 9600mi 80,000
zone 10 any 96,000

Good idea. In QF its based on Life SCs : 7,000 for Life Silver (OW Ruby), 14,000 for Life Gold (OW Sapphire).

And you could even list it if you like (the nature of the chart as it is) specifically related to Emerald earning levels : e.g. in QF it will take an absolute maximum of 5 2/3 years of Emerald status to earn Life Silver and 11 1/2 years to earn Life Gold. (Life Silver : 1400 to earn in first year, plus 4 2/3 years re-earning at exactly the 1200 required = 7,100 SCs; Life Gold : 1400 to earn in first year, plus 10 1/2 years re-earning at exactly the 1200 required = exactly the 14,000 SCs needed).

If Life Status is earned much quicker/easier or longer/harder in other progs. (i.e. when judged by how many years of minimum Emerald earn and rearn it would take to achieve it) that would be great to be able to see clearly in such a chart.

Uber J and F flyers of course will earn Life Status in just a year or two, no matter which of the progs. they are in !

^ Keep up the good work !

Those are not maximum times to earn lifetime status for QF emeralds. Many people get comped requalification. Further Chairman's Lounge pax are also QF emerald and may not fly at all.

Sure, but I'm sure you see the point I was making KF : how long does it take a flyer who each year earns Emerald, and who isn't ever going to be given CL etc, to earn Life Status ? If the answer is very different on different OW carriers, then being able to compare in such a chart would be most useful.

The bit I wrote just gives a guide to how long it can take in QF, using the longest way (a person earning Emerald each year) can get there as a marker - how does the equiv. 'longest way' compare on AA for e.g. ? (I.e. if a person in the AA scheme re-earns EXP each year by reaching exactly the miles etc needed to do so, how many years will it take them to get to Life status ?)

Seems to me the obvious way to compare, and links the comparison with the Emerald nature of the chart.

Though working this all out may just be too complicated/not worth the time - but that's for FLYGVA to decide I guess !

I have changed it, but I have limited space, so I could not write down the whole table with the miles needed for a standbyupgrade.

I have put a special line for lifetime status. While AA is an unpublished benefit (according to http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index...ifetime_Status) QF has published it.

Are there really no other oneworld airlines offerings lifetime status? I have done a quick search, but did not get any specific information.

AA Life status (copied from a post on the AA Board)

1 million miles - Lifetime AAdvantage Gold status

2 million miles - Lifetime AAdvantage Platinum status

every million miles thereafter - 4 more eVIPs, new status and 2 more luggage tags

You are also sent a congratulatory letter, as well as a new AAdvantage status card and two luggage tags - both reflecting current status and embossed with a logo with the millions of miles one has earned over their lifetime.


And I'm also very interested in FLYGVA question - are these the only two airlines in OW to offer Life Status (officially or otherwise) ?
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AA Life Status is based on miles in account, not flown miles.

A partner e.g. credit card, that dumps 2,000,000 miles in a brand new AAdvantage account turns that account Platinum immediately, for the life of the AAdvantage Program.

Yowzers ! Well that puts a whole new face on things... I said I wasn't an expert on AA didn't I !

Ergo comparisons between AA and QF Life Status earning levels are pretty pointless... and a person just has to buy a big house on a credit card and they will have AA Life Platinum status !!!

Think I might move to the US for a few months, get a credit card, and do just that... though with US house prices falling at the rate they are I might need to buy about 5 big houses !

Hi FLYGVA, great table and thanks for the hard work!

For JMB, hope you don't mind if I comment a little:
- requalification also has the +4 JAL flights requirement.
- no expiration only if DIAMOND status
- Lounge Access is to JL Diamond/Premier lounge (equivalent to F lounge)
- in Others, JAL fast lane at NRT and HND
- in Others, 1 hotel coupon for JAL hotels (Premier), 2 coupons for JAL hotels (Diamond)
- in Others, 5 coupons for access to "Century 21 Club" (Premier) or complementary membership (Diamond JGC member)

no lifetime status if I understand things correctly.


And while this is the oneworld forum, forgive me too if I comment on the *Silver table, in particular for TG*S:

COS = Status Miles : Yes
Miles expire : 3 years / 3 years


Hope these help!

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KIXman, thanks for the feedback to both charts. I will update when I am back from my short trip to FRA on sunday evening.