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FLYGVA Aug 25, 2008 1:46 pm

Overview of Oneworld Emerald Status
 
BlondeBomber has done a great job with his Star Alliance Comparison Chart. In the past there had been a similar comparison with the oneworld airlines, but I did not find it anymore in the web. So I have done - also as a result of my Star Silver overview - a comparison of the oneworld FFP programs.

It took a couple of days and the highest tier (Emerald) is now completed and I have uploaded the chart on my homepage (Click here).

The layout it similar to the one BlondeBomber uses in his chart, but I have changed a few things, since the FFP's of OneWorld and StarAlliance differ in some points (e.g. no luggage benefits as part of status on all airlines etc).

If you have any suggestion or if you find anything wrong, feel free to post is. I am looking especially for data on Malev and Royal Jordanian, since the information available on their webpages are not the most informative ones. But any form of feedback is highly appreciated since I am only Blue with BA.

I am also open for suggestion of points I should change or highlight in the overview.

I hope to finish the overview of Sapphire and Ruby in the next days.

Kiwi Flyer Aug 25, 2008 2:15 pm

Thanks FLYGVA ^

yhpm about QF

Swanhunter Aug 25, 2008 2:48 pm

Couple of things on BA:

A gold travelling Club earn 200% miles (50% tier bonus, 50% cos), and 250% in F. The SWU at 2500 is the equivilent of 4 AA SWU's, allowing you and a companion to be upgrade round trip.

FLYGVA Aug 25, 2008 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 10258090)
Couple of things on BA:

A gold travelling Club earn 200% miles (50% tier bonus, 50% cos), and 250% in F. The SWU at 2500 is the equivilent of 4 AA SWU's, allowing you and a companion to be upgrade round trip.

I have changed the wording on the page to make the round trip and the +1 person clearer.

cxfan1960 Aug 25, 2008 3:33 pm

Thanks. This is a good start. There are a few things I noticed:
* The COS bonuses in the first two rows are bonuses plus base miles.
* CX requires 4 Club Sectors to requalify Green, but nothing to requalify Silver, Gold and Diamond. Notes:
- Club Sectors can be on any qualified OW, not just CX/KA, marketed and operated flights (multiplied by whatever the factor is for the corresponding booking class/airline).
- It is impossible to have lower than four Club Sectors to get to any elite level anyway.
* CX upgrade - the range is for one-way upgrade only.
* AA lounge access (it is not just Admirals Club, and there are additional flight qualifications for lounge access) - probably too complicated to be put in a box.
* CX lounge access - Business lounge on non-OW airlines, F lounge for OW airlines.
* AA membership year - It is from the qualification/requalification point to Feb 28/29 the year after next.
* CX - will expire regardless of activity 36-48 months (to the end of month of the Asia Miles anniversary that year).

christep Aug 25, 2008 4:52 pm

Also on CX you can't go straight from nothing to Diamond/Emerald for 120K/80seg. You need to work your way up through the other tiers, meaning a minimum of 210K/140segs.

goback Aug 25, 2008 5:16 pm

Great comparison chart FLYGVA, thanks.

One note, QF are enforcing the 4 QF flights rule now, otherwise you lose status.

skunker Aug 25, 2008 5:23 pm

AA

Upgrade domestic / continental
unlimited for member / 4 x 500 km certs @ 10k EQM
I thought EXPs don't earn 500 mile upgrades? They don't need them, unless they lose EXP.

FLYGVA Aug 26, 2008 12:18 am


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 10258336)
* The COS bonuses in the first two rows are bonuses plus base miles.

You and all others are right, this is not clear. I will change is to clarify is. Not sure in the moment, if I will write down only the bonus or the earning all together.

Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 10258336)
* CX requires 4 Club Sectors to requalify Green, but nothing to requalify Silver, Gold and Diamond. Notes:
- Club Sectors can be on any qualified OW, not just CX/KA, marketed and operated flights (multiplied by whatever the factor is for the corresponding booking class/airline).
- It is impossible to have lower than four Club Sectors to get to any elite level anyway.

Well, I summed this up, i.e. meaning you have to have four flights on CX. The "4 CX / DA flights" should indicate this.


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 10258336)
* CX upgrade - the range is for one-way upgrade only.

All miles in this sector should be for one way / one class upgrade. This sometimes mean only from Economy to Premium Economy. I will consider to clarify this in the first column.


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 10258336)
* AA lounge access (it is not just Admirals Club, and there are additional flight qualifications for lounge access) - probably too complicated to be put in a box.

If I understand the rules, you have fo fly international to get into an Admirals Club in the US. Does this mean, you can access any other OW lounge in the US with AA Executive Platinum without an international flight (if possible to get to the location?


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 10258336)
* CX lounge access - Business lounge on non-OW airlines, F lounge for OW airlines.

I will clarify this, thanks ^


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 10258336)
* AA membership year - It is from the qualification/requalification point to Feb 28/29 the year after next.
* CX - will expire regardless of activity 36-48 months (to the end of month of the Asia Miles anniversary that year).

Okay, I will update this, too.

Many thanks for your feedback and input.

FLYGVA Aug 26, 2008 12:20 am


Originally Posted by goback (Post 10258844)
Great comparison chart FLYGVA, thanks.

One note, QF are enforcing the 4 QF flights rule now, otherwise you lose status.

Thanks, I will update this.

A general comment about the updates, I will try to update as soon as possible, which will take a couple of hours, since I sometiems have a regular job to do.

FLYGVA Aug 26, 2008 12:27 am


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 10258866)
AA


I thought EXPs don't earn 500 mile upgrades? They don't need them, unless they lose EXP.

Hm, I think after rereading the t&c some more times, you might be right. It seems, that I misunderstand it. It seems you can upgrade yourself and a companion for or less for free. I had the impression, you need the certs to upgrade your companion.

cxfan1960 Aug 26, 2008 1:17 am

I would like to express my appreciation. It is really nice for you to put this comparison chart together.


Originally Posted by FLYGVA (Post 10260222)
Well, I summed this up, i.e. meaning you have to have four flights on CX. The "4 CX / DA flights" should indicate this.

Dragonair is actually KA (not DA), but Club Sectors are not necessarily on CX/KA. We can earn Club Sectors on other OneWorld flights. (In other words, it does not matter. It is impossble to get to or maintain the Diamond level with fewer than four qualified OW flights anyway.)


Originally Posted by FLYGVA (Post 10260222)
If I understand the rules, you have fo fly international to get into an Admirals Club in the US. Does this mean, you can access any other OW lounge in the US with AA Executive Platinum without an international flight (if possible to get to the location?

An AA EXP must fly "international" (as defined by AA) to have lounge access. When flying international, AA EXPs can access any OW first or business lounges, including Flagship lounges and Admirals Clubs.

DownUnderFlyer Aug 26, 2008 1:57 am

Thanks FLYGVA, great work!

Here a few things to add to QF:

QF uses Points, not miles (for upgrades etc).
QF Platinums have access to QF J lounges (intl) and QF Pubs (dom) even when not flying QF or OW.
QF Platinums can request J award seats for domestic flights.

Swanhunter Aug 26, 2008 2:35 am

BA Gold also get J lounge access when flying non-OW airlines, but only BA branded lounges, not third party. BA/QF joint lounges are a grey area.

Wasabi Tofu Aug 26, 2008 3:07 am

For Others:
CX: Extra baggage 20kg or 1PC
JL: Extra baggage 20kg or 2PC

Upgrade dometic:
JL: 14 certs(Diamond)/10 certs(JGC) (applicable for domestic J only, not for domestic F)
(Until 31.Mar.2009)

Upgrade international
JL: 4SWU(Diamond)/3SWU(JGC)
(Until 31 Mar.2009)

After 1.Apr.2009
Common upgrade points for domestic/international
Base 40 pts(Diamond)/30 pts(JGC)
2 pts per every 10kFOP over 100kFOP(Diamond)/80kFOP(JGC)
ex.
2 pts required for domestic upgrade for one segment (J only, not for F)
12 pts required for longhaul international(N.A/S.A/Europe) upgrade for one segment


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