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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
(Post 10260444)
BA Gold also get J lounge access when flying non-OW airlines, but only BA branded lounges, not third party. BA/QF joint lounges are a grey area.
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Originally Posted by FLYGVA
(Post 10260238)
Hm, I think after rereading the t&c some more times, you might be right. It seems, that I misunderstand it. It seems you can upgrade yourself and a companion for or less for free. I had the impression, you need the certs to upgrade your companion.
Additional information on upgrades, but note these are general rules for 500 mile upgrades and is not an EXP benefit so probably does not need to be detailed in your spreadsheet for that reason and since it is rather wordy. The companion can upgrade using 500 mile certs which can be taken from either the companion's upgrade account or from the friends account with whom they are traveling. 500 mile upgrade certs can be purchased with cash by any traveler at a price of $30 per certificate if purchased in advance, or $35 if purchased at time of travel at the airport; or with miles by any AAdvantage member at a price of 35000 miles for 8 500 mile upgrade certficates. Also, Gold and Plat AAdvantage members earn 4 500 mile upgrades for every 10000 miles flown. |
I hopefully have updated the most of the points.
Most important, I have changed the COS bonus for Business and First Class to the real meaning of the word "Bonus", so only the additional miles / points / km and not the whole amount one earns. I hopefully have calculated it corretc. I have also mentioned the lounge access for non OW flights. The change in the earning of SWU on JAL starting next year is below the overview with a mark. |
Great chart FLYGVA, a very useful reference source ^
A couple of things to adjust on the Other section of the QF bit :- a) You have written "Gold card for partner @ 2100 TP", but it should be '2100 SC' of course ! b) Re. "request J seat for dom flights", in the case of award inventory you can as a WP (as a Platinum) actually request international J award seats as well (as can QF Golds, btw, I understand) - if no seats available on a flight a WP speaks to QF Premium and they put in a request for a J seat. System sometimes gives an immediate yes, and if it does not they then put in a request which is evaluated somewhere and a decision is made within a day or two. You can request once per flight, but can request it for as many flights as you like. (And in my experience if all this does not work they will put in an F seat request then too). You however cannot request a Y seat if one has not been released into award inventory. Oh, and as a WP you get an additional 15kg luggage allowance (but only on QF) on international flights (or 1 more bag on flights to and from USA), and two more bags on Australian domestic flights. QF's own status comparison chart on this btw is here - http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...atusPrivileges, and BAs list of Gold benefits is here http://www.britishairways.com/travel...d/public/en_gb if anyone wants full specifcs on these particular progs. . |
Oh, and another big issue that is worthy of mention for each airline : soft or hard landing.
If you don't step on a flight after qualifying for WP, QF give you a status soft landing (assuming they don't comp. you the status, which they sometimes do !), dropping you one level a year - so from earning WP it will be at least 3 years before you are a bronze again, with a year as Gold and then one as Silver in between. Other OW carriers (AA ? Little idea personally about others !) I understand will drop you straight from top-tier to bottom-tier. Very useful info for e.g. for a person who may have one big flying year but know that in subsequent years they won't be flying much, and wants to maximise status from this big year and wants to pick the right prog. to join accordingly. |
Originally Posted by Aisle Seat H
(Post 10264262)
Oh, and another big issue that is worthy of mention for each airline : soft or hard landing.
(...) Other OW carriers (AA ? Little idea personally about others !) I understand will drop you straight from top-tier to bottom-tier. |
Originally Posted by FLYGVA
(Post 10263244)
I hopefully have updated the most of the points.
The change in the earning of SWU on JAL starting next year is below the overview with a mark. I wrote "2 pts required for domestic upgrade for one segment (J only, not for F) 12 pts required for longhaul international(N.A/S.A/Europe) upgrade for one segment" as reference for new structure. These are common to all tiers. So, we need better description than I wrote. By the way, extra baggage allowance for CX/KA and JL are reversed. CX 20kg/1PC JL 20kg/2PC Thanks. |
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To mention a soft landing seems a good idea. I will update this and the rest later today. Thank you for the input. |
American Airlines
AAdvanteage Executive Platinum Paid Business COS Bonus 25% Miles / KM / points need for status [Year / 12 Month] and Miles / KM / Points need for requalification 100K Mls, 100K Pts, or 100 Seg |
BA offers soft landing..and may also offer a free extension of status to really valuable customers (i.e. miss Gold renewal but get another year anyhow).
Do you want to mention extensions of top tier status i.e Concierge Key and Gold Guest List? |
On soft landing my experience is that both AA and CX soft land, but my impression is that at AA it is more or less policy whereas at CX it is more case by case.
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I have updated the overview.
A question concerning the soft landing: Is this guaranteed like e.g. Lufthansa, who published the soft landing or is this somehow on a goodwill base of the airlines? Regarding JAL, I have summarised the "Introduction of new Upgrade Points system" section on the homepage.
Originally Posted by Swanhunter
(Post 10266637)
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Do you want to mention extensions of top tier status i.e Concierge Key and Gold Guest List? |
Originally Posted by FLYGVA
(Post 10268670)
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A question concerning the soft landing: Is this guaranteed like e.g. Lufthansa, who published the soft landing or is this somehow on a goodwill base of the airlines? (...) Cheers. |
QF soft landing is official, but the extension of status on case by case basis is an unofficial benefit.
QF also has a higher invitation tier, Chairman's Lounge, which is also OW emerald. |
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 10269180)
QF also has a higher invitation tier, Chairman's Lounge, which is also OW emerald.
Gold Guest List (on BA) is a part of Gold status, that is earned once you pass a certain number of TPs - 3,000+ ? - that BA say in the invite letters is an "exclusive service designed for our highest value Gold Executive Club members". (QF equiv. is that Partner Gold benefit after 2,100 SCs that you already have in the chart)... BA also however have a VIP status that is given to those it deems worthy of it, but that cannot be earned via TPs/by a set amount of flying - BA Premier. QF's equiv., as KF posted, is CL - both get lots of benefits, inc. access to (BA) Concorde and (QF) CL lounges even when flying in Y. (QF also tend not to leave CLs in Y, even if they have only paid a cheap Y fare, and think BA have a similar approach/policy for its Premiers). If what I have read on the AA board is correct, the nearest equiv. in AA is Concierge Key - again its a VIP not a fly-a-lot status. (Does AA have a special lounge for them, and does it get you into Concorde and CL lounges when flying BA and QF ? I myself don't know). Guessing some or all of the other OW carriers must have equivs. too. . |
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