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sueco6 Mar 23, 2011 4:04 pm

Finnair Plus tracking period is now 12 months. You need 150,000 to renew the Platinum tier membeship.

FLYGVA Apr 10, 2011 11:12 am


Originally Posted by sueco6 (Post 16089272)
Finnair Plus tracking period is now 12 months. You need 150,000 to renew the Platinum tier membeship.

Okay, this is now updated (and also for Silver and Gold)

Thanks ^

Microwave Apr 12, 2011 7:01 pm

I believe for AAdvantage, BA and JL flights now get status bonuses for Executive Platinum/Emeralds, but MA and S7 do not. BA and JL should be removed from the list of AAdvantage partners that do not earn status bonus miles, and S7 should be added to the list of partners that do not earn status bonus miles.

Sources:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...es/british.jsp
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...ines/japan.jsp
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...vHungarian.jsp
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...irlines/s7.jsp

EDIT: Also, it may be of value to include minimum mileage earn rates. For AA, these are listed at the Minimum Mileage Guarantee page at aa.com:


As an elite status member, you will earn 500 minimum miles for flights under 500 flight miles on applicable routes from the following airlines:

oneworld Airlines
  • American Airlines (including codeshare flights booked as an AA flight number)
  • American Eagle®
  • AmericanConnection®
  • British Airways
  • Finnair
  • Iberia
  • LAN
  • Malév Hungarian Airlines
  • Mexicana
  • Qantas Airways
  • Royal Jordanian Airlines

AAdvantage Participating Airlines
  • Air Pacific
  • Alaska Airlines
  • EL AL
  • Gulf Air
  • GOL

Exceptions
  • Hawaiian Airlines awards a minimum of 250 miles
  • Deutsche Bahn (German Rail) awards a minimum of 250 miles


FLYGVA Apr 14, 2011 12:00 am


Originally Posted by Microwave (Post 16207859)
I believe for AAdvantage, BA and JL flights now get status bonuses for Executive Platinum/Emeralds, but MA and S7 do not. BA and JL should be removed and S7 should be added.

According to this http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/el...itestatusbonus you are right. But not for S7.

I do not quite understand what you mean by writing

Originally Posted by Microwave (Post 16207859)
... but MA and S7 do not. BA and JL should be removed and S7 should be added.


The minimum miles is a good idea to mention. I will update this as soon as possible for AA

Microwave Apr 14, 2011 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by FLYGVA (Post 16215437)
I do not quite understand what you mean by writing


Originally Posted by Microwave (Post 16207859)
... but MA and S7 do not. BA and JL should be removed and S7 should be added.

The minimum miles is a good idea to mention. I will update this as soon as possible for AA

I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear. There's a row called "% Bonus for Elite". Under AAdvantage, that row currently lists "100% (not on BA; Malev and JAL))". Thus, BA and JL should be removed from this list, and S7 added; when fixed, the list should indicate "100% (not on MA or S7). It was a bit confusing; I've also edited my post to hopefully make more sense.

serfty Nov 27, 2011 4:19 pm

Qantas changed their WP rules from February this year in regard to Lounge access.



Y
(compl. Qantas Club membership*); Access to QF (+ evtl. BA) J lounges for non OW flights;
2 guests in Domestic QF Lounge in AUS + NZ, 1 guest in International First or Business QF Lounge
* domestic QF club is open door, no need for flying; guests are allowed Domestic access permitted on same day of Qantas/Jetstar/oneworld flight (Departure and Arrival), International access permitted before departure of Qantas/Jetstar/oneworld flight.
Also, Expiry: points now expire after 18 months of inactivity ("Family" transfers are not considered "activity".)

stifle Dec 4, 2011 3:27 am

Updates and corrections for BA:

Miles are now called Avios (optional)
First gives +500% the tier points of economy (210 vs. 35 for most long-hauls.
Business is +300%
Qualification and requalification are the same thresholds. One can get BA Gold from Europe excluding UK/IE with 800TPs until 1 March 2012. After this anyone who has achieved gold at the old rate can renew it up to twice at 800. After that and for everyone else it goes up to 1500TPs.
Golds get 100% mileage bonus on BA marketed flights.
One-way international one-class upgrades are available for between 4500 Avios and 100000 Avios depending on route and which class you want to upgrade to. They are also available on IB and AA flights although only from the most expensive fare buckets.
There is no lounge access available if not flying oneworld.

FLYGVA Dec 4, 2011 8:34 am


Originally Posted by stifle (Post 17563188)
(...)
First gives +500% the tier points of economy (210 vs. 35 for most long-hauls.
Business is +300%

for Award miles (aka Avios) as well :confused: This was meant for miles not TP but I admit that I have to work out the differentiation between Avios and TP better.



Originally Posted by stifle (Post 17563188)

Qualification and requalification are the same thresholds. One can get BA Gold from Europe excluding UK/IE with 800TPs until 1 March 2012. After this anyone who has achieved gold at the old rate can renew it up to twice at 800. After that and for everyone else it goes up to 1500TPs.
Golds get 100% mileage bonus on BA marketed flights.
One-way international one-class upgrades are available for between 4500 Avios and 100000 Avios depending on route and which class you want to upgrade to. They are also available on IB and AA flights although only from the most expensive fare buckets.
There is no lounge access available if not flying oneworld.

I tried to express this with adding the old requalifying levels, it seems I failed completely.

Thanks for the information about upgrade, I guess this is the same for all three levels.

stifle Dec 4, 2011 9:18 am


Originally Posted by FLYGVA (Post 17563983)
for Award miles (aka Avios) as well :confused: This was meant for miles not TP but I admit that I have to work out the differentiation between Avios and TP better.

In case it isn't clear, Avios are the currency used to get free* flights and upgrades; tier points are used only to move up levels.

With that in mind, First on British Airways gets +100% Avios compared to economy but +500% tier points**; Club World/Club Europe (Business class) normally get +50% Avios and +300% tier points**†. However, flying First on another carrier is only +50% Avios, and Business on another carrier is +25% Avios. However, one gets the same tier points on other oneworld carriers as on BA.

For some examples, consider a flight from LHR-ORD, which can be BA or AA.
  • whY bookings get 3950 Avios and 35 TPs on either carrier
  • High economy buckets (YBH) still get 3950 Avios but get 70 TPs (+100%), again whichever carrier you use.
  • Mentioning for completeness, BA's World Traveller Plus (premium economy) would be 4938 Avios (+25%) and 90 tier points (+150%, rounded)
  • Business class gives 140 tier points (+300%). On BA, the Avios would be 5925 (+50%). On AA, it's 4938 (+25%).
  • First class is 210 tier points (+500%). On BA, 7900 Avios (+100%), but flying on AA you get 5925 Avios (+50%).
Silver and Gold members also get an additional +100% Avios if on a BA-marketed flight, but the same tier points.

Originally Posted by FLYGVA (Post 17563983)
Thanks for the information about upgrade, I guess this is the same for all three levels.

All four levels, yes. BA flights in JCDRIWETYBH classes may be upgraded using Avios; IB and AA flights need to be in JCDYB. Upgrades can only be by a single class; from economy to business (possible only if the aircraft doesn't have premium economy) or business to first is 100% the base cost (the cost of booking the flight outright in economy), economy to premium economy or premium economy to business is 50% the base cost.

*NB flights are not really free due to YQ etc.
**Y, B, and H booking classes grant 2× the usual economy tier points.
†Formula is different on some long routes within Europe.

FLYGVA Dec 4, 2011 9:22 am

Even we LH flyers in Germany :D have noticed the change from Miles to Avios.

I misunderstood your post and after re-reading it, the penny finally drops. After some back and forth with the layout, I have added a footnote and calculate the bonus from full fare Economy (not yet live)

Thank for your head ups and the clarification.

FLYGVA Dec 4, 2011 9:34 am

I have not uploaded the changes.

Unfortunately the programs become more complex from relaunch to relaunch making it difficult to show every change and every possibility. In so far I have tried to do my best.

FLYGVA Mar 24, 2012 7:41 am

As AirBerlin joined the Oneworld Alliance and Malev is grounded, it was time for another update. As usual available on my homepage (http://www.hotels-and-travel.de/ffp/...ow_emerald.htm).

Let me know, if anything is wrong or I have forgotten something.

AB Platinum is quite new and since it was only introduced a couple of weeks ago, there was not much of information available regarding the SWU.

Maybe I missed something, but I assumed that you could upgrade Ethiads flights with AB miles as well, but this seems not the be correct (did not know, where I read this, maybe misread it). Perhaps something for the future?

KIXman Jul 21, 2012 10:47 am

Hi FLYGVA,

Please update JAL to show the new stricter requirements for status:

Miles / KM / points need for status [Year / 12 Month]
[100 k pts including 50k pts on JAL flights, or 120 seg + 35k pts including 60 seg on JAL flights (Diamond)/
[80 k (JGC) including 40k pts on JAL flights, or 80 seg +25k pts including 40 seg on JAL flights

Miles / KM / Points need for requalification
[100 k pts including 50k pts on JAL flights, or 120 seg + 35k pts including 60 seg on JAL flights (Diamond)/
[80 k (JGC) including 40k pts on JAL flights, or 80 seg +25k pts including 40 seg on JAL flights

Also for upgrade domestic / international benefits, JAL is completely removing the upgrade points program, so instead we have the following:
Domestic:
4k pts for 6 coupons
Additional coupons possible from certain choices from their service selection for Diamond/Premium members

International:
none

FLYGVA Jul 21, 2012 2:55 pm

Thank you very much, KIXman. ^


I have updated the chart with the new requirement for requalification, but have currenlty left the old upgrade points but changed the footnote from the 2009 changes and highlight that the upgrade points will be discontinued. Is it right, that you have to use 4000 pts to get 6 coupons to upgrade domestic flights from Economy (selected classes) to Business?

KIXman Jul 21, 2012 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by FLYGVA (Post 18975949)
I have updated the chart with the new requirement for requalification, but have currenlty left the old upgrade points but changed the footnote from the 2009 changes and highlight that the upgrade points will be discontinued.

Thanks, that sounds like a better way to put it.


Originally Posted by FLYGVA (Post 18975949)
Is it right, that you have to use 4000 pts to get 6 coupons to upgrade domestic flights from Economy (selected classes) to Business?

oops I wrote that wrong, you use 4000 miles to get 6 paper coupons to upgrade from economy to business. There's also an electronic coupon option, wherein you can use 2000 miles to get 3 electronic coupons for the Y to J upgrade. The coupons cannot be used for J to F upgrades.


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