You sure about that? I thought that there was no fee as long as the city sequence on the ticket did not change.

Yes, as this requires a ticket reissue the fee should be assessed.

Changing from a ground segment to an air segment will require a reissue for the reasons listed by pandaperth and also obviously because of the change in calculation of taxes which will now be assessed on the segment now being flown. Similarly changing from a transit to a stopover will require a reissue. This has been discussed in a number of threads.

One interesting counter point is that there is no fee to change a stopover to a transit in my experience.

Not necessarily a counterpoint as there is no need to make a change in that circumstance. It's why I and some others have reported that we routinely book all connections as stopovers absent a specific reason not to usually high costs for the stopover, e.g., London and the UK APD charges.

RTW
 

When booking a RTW ticket on One World, which miles program to sign up for?
The airline you'll have the most flights with?
Any airline part of One World even if it won't participate to the RTW trip?
...
I'm a bit lost there so any help/ suggestion would be appreciated.

To help with this question, it would be good to know a few extra bits of information.

What is your home port? What class is your RTW in? Outside of the RTW, where do you do the bulk of your flying?

And in what cabin?

Home is BRU. I'll be booking economy on all flights. I usually never fly One World... I have a Finnair membership where I collected no points and there won't be any Finnair flights on the RTW...
So what is it best I sign up with?


And another question... any idea how much money I'd save - if any - by departing from LHR instead of BRU?

You would not save any money by departing from LHR. I fact if you can have your first flight on a carrier other than BA you may save a bit in fees.

Really? I think it will be BA from BRU to LHR though, not sure what other options I have there.

American Airlines to JFK, Iberia to MAD, Finnair to Helsinki, or Royal Jordanian to AMM. If headed east initially breaking up your trip in Amman might be nice both because Jordan is a fascinating country (Petra is a must-see) and it's around a third of the way to SE Asia.

So far it's supposed to be BRU- LHR- SIN...

BRU-HEL-SIN would be your other one stop option. If interested in visiting AMM (which would require two stops) you could connect in CMB, BKK or HKG between AMM and SIN.

Qantas also flies Frankfurt-Singapore.

Any idea where I would pay less airport taxes? LHR/ HEL or FRA?

Hey. I'm a brand newbie here from the AAdvantage forums and i wish to expand my knowledge to other areas :D

For late 2012 and 2013 i have in mind doing several long haul flights. Oceania and Asia. Never been there before, i wonder if a RTW ticket would be a wise choice. I'm based in Caracas,Venezuela and origin would be from this location.

Here's the thing i'm completely clueless about everything. Have just opened this sub-forum for the very first time lurking these spaces and have yet to read this thread or the FAQ.

I want to know if it would be a good idea to buy an Explorer ticket and for how much. I only have the means to fly in Y or maybe J if you can find me a very good deal of some sort.

I want to do a trip in 2012 to Australia and New Zealand. Fly QF A380, and spend sometime in the major cities of those countries.

Then in another occasion lets say in 2013 fly to Asia, meet all the major cities and several countries in Asia. Like a RTW but inside Asia.

Can someone input what's the best product for myself? Of course i have to research but i would like to have first hand info from your experiences. It is very important someone quotes me an approximate of USD, so i can get an idea.

How about a LONE5?

CCS-MIA-SFO-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-HND/NRT-HEL-MAD-CCS

It's about 34.000 miles
4.123 USD + 921USD tax= 5.074,95 USD

Is this good or it's expensive. Cheaper would be even better. I wanted to add Moscow, but couldn't get from Japan to Moscow... without exceeding the allowed segments.

I'm based in Caracas,Venezuela. Just was testing this, first time i use this OW tool.

any thoughts on buying tickets from Japan?

I am looking at leaving Sydney in May and travelling to Tokyo/Kyoto for say 10 days.

Mostly then spending 6-8 months in UK, including some short side trips to Europe (that we could buy there).

Then to New York, San Francisco (possibly San Diego or Portland to visit friends) before returning back to Sydney in December or January, if possible via Honolulu or similar relaxing stopover

2 adults, a 4 year old and an infant who will turn 2 in September while we are travelling.

Fares from Syd are generally so much more expensive than elsewhere that I wouldn't mind getting into a new cycle buying fix from UK as I used to when I first moved out here..

Thanks

Hi, thanks for the reply but it can't be done. By government regulations we Venezuelans can't buy any ticket that's not originating in Venezuela. Buying a ticket not originating in Venezuela would mean not to pay them at the 4.3BsF per USD, but to buy at 9BsF per USD as we have a currency exchange control.

Also, getting from Venezuela to Japan or any other remote location would be around $2000. Only Caracas-Miami flights are $1500 for a 3 and a half hour flight.

Explorer itinerary Possibility
 

How Does this Itinerary Look for One World Explorer?

ANC - LAX - PPT-AKL-NAN-SYD-MNL-HKG-DPS-HKG-SIN-CMB-AMM/NBO-LHR-LAX-ANC



tHANKS.

How does it look? Pretty hopeless I'm sorry to say

Your issue is that no Oneworld airlines fly between a number of your ports, namely:
ANC-LAX and LAX-ANC (AA does not fly this route - it codeshares on AS and in general codeshares on non-OW airlines are not allowed)
LAX-PPT
PPT-AKL (QF codeshare on TN not allowed)
AKL-NAN
NAN-SYD

The rest of the itinerary is OK (SYD-MNL-HKG-DPS-HKG-SIN-CMB-AMM/NBO-LHR-LAX)
and BTW RJ flies between AMM and NBO

The rules of the ticket are here

There is another RTW ticket called the Global Explorer; its rules are here. It would allow all the flights on your itinerary, BUT it is a mileage-based ticket and your itinerary well exceeds the maximum miles allowed.

ps Welcome to FT

Wow. I really overlooked somethings.
So, I was not aware of the no Codeshare on TN.
Does that mean the only way to fly to Tahiti is to use Lan Chile from Santiago?
Why do they show the route on the "ONEWORLD explorer interactive Map" tool?
The RJ flight from AMM to NBO. Thanks. I totally missed that one.
And Lastly, so I can really get burned ... the "ONEWORLD explorer interactive Map" tool shows a codeshare Alaska airline flight from ANC-LAX. When you say,
"in general codeshares on non-OW airlines are not allowed"
... when are codeshares allowed, and why do they show up on the interactive tool.
Thanks again.

I think you're mistakenly adding the word "Explorer" when you mention the "Oneworld Interactive Network Map." That map shows all Oneworld routes (in fact, from time to time more than all ;) ) not just those eligible using the Oneworld Explorer RTW product.

The TN and Alaska codeshare flights (and others on non-OW members' metal) are shown because those carriers and routes are available using other products, in particular the Global Explorer, the mileage-based RTW product. For example, using the GlobEx you can fly on Lan to Tahiti, then on to Oz/NZ using the Qantas codeshare on TN; similarly you can use Alaska Airlines in the western US if the flight carries an AA code (which many do.)

But using the mileage-unlimited Oneworld Explorer, you can only use OW member metal. The map tool shows both.

Hi all, can someone take a look here and comment? I need some input ^
Thanks in advance.

Unless you were to cut out North America altogether, the price is likely the best you'll be able to do. There are cheaper LONEX fares out of, say, Europe, but you'd eat up the savings by getting to Europe in the first place (then back to CCS after.)

You can indeed add Moscow and stay within the rules - just swap PEK-NRT for PEK-HND, then take JAL's nonstop flight to DME. Note that Finnair uses SVO for its Moscow flights, so if you wanted to avoid losing a segment because of the airport change in Moscow, you'd have to fly to either Madrid or London in order to "double back" to Helsinki, but you'd still have enough segments in Europe and overall - to wit:

CCS-MIA-SFO-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-DME-MAD-HEL-MAD-CCS

Thanks,i'll take a look at it and pull it in the OW tool. How are the taxes? Are these high and can be lowered or are considered fair for the route.

NA is kept just to board A380 as is it one of the highlights of the trip. We also like to try Qantas.

You could fly on QF's A380 between SYD and SIN - at least one flight daily.

Yup, it is scheduled as that too. We want to fly both times in the A380. My father is 75 and is all over the A380. Brother who is 40 is all over it too. I'm 22.

How much would it save us, doing a LONE4, via LAN to Australia compared to the LONE5,getting to LAX for the A380? Just curiosity
Nevertheless i see unlikely my father will go to Australia in the future. So if he has the chance to fly the A380 it would be that one.

$500 per ticket plus any changes in taxes.

I changed it a bit. Thanks for your input, i didn't know JAL operated between Tokyo and Moscow. I'm looking something less aggressive now. ;)

CCS-MIA-LAX-MEL-AKL-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-DME-MAD-CCS

Will price it in a bit to see how it works, and via Chile too.

I can't seem to find that NRT-DME (per Narita Airport wikipedia) JAL Flight on the OW tool, it makes me route via HKG-DME via CX. I also heard CX economy seat is one of the worst on the system and i do not get any miles on my AA FF while flying in Cathay metal. Any work around?

????
I'm lost, there's supposed to be a Japan Airlines flight from Narita to Moscow, and the tool doesn't allow me to choose it?

Try changing dates - it doesn't fly every day. When are you traveling?

I'm flying the whole December '12. I cant yet choose the dates on the OW tool. So i am using dummy dates between September-October '12, to do an approximate price check for the whole RTW. When does it fly?

EDIT: Never mind, i found NRT-DME flight is only Monday,Thursday and Saturday !! BUT Taxes are 1300.... and total is a whopping $5,400 instead of 920 USD taxes and $5000 total via HEL (Finnair), instead via DME with Japan Airlines !!! :eek::eek:

I picked diferent months though for the AY and JL scenarios. Is this usual? That much taxes for Moscow and/or JAL??

I am currently in this:

CCS-MIA-LAX-MEL-AKL-CNS-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT-HEL-MAD-CCS

But they are about 9-10 cities for 30 days... time is short. Most likely i have to delete segments in this RTW.
What would you guys do? Visit where. I can leave HEL to overnight only. But i have never been to: MEL-AKL-CNS-SYD-SIN-BKK-HKG-PEK-NRT. I don't wan't to be rushing into the cities, but would like to know which of these take more time and so on.

Circle Trip Explorer
 

How do you book a Circle Trip Explorer ticket?

I want to fly J class NBO PER BNE SYD LHR NBO.

Thanks

Rules are here:
http://www.oneworld.com/tasks/downlo...?objectID=1169
This provision will be significant:
As there are no oneworld flights from NBO to SWP, except by connecting thru ME/EUR, you will either have to do your LHR stopover at the beginning (that is, NBO-LHR---and end at JNB) or begin your trip in JNB and fly to SWP from there.
Examples:
NBO-LHR-HKG-SYD-PER-BNE-SYD-JNB
JNB-SYD-PER-BNE-SYD-(SIN, BKK, HKG, or TYO)-LHR-NBO

You could buy the JNB originating circle trip through Mindpearl the AA GSA in CPT:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/where...outhAfrica.jsp

Hmm. I think everyone has different opinions, but I would spend more time in SYD, BKK, HKG, PEK and NRT and less time in MEL, AKL and SIN (haven't been to CNS so can't say). What kind of city do you prefer?

Is RTW the best option?
 

I want to fly DFW-CDG-HAN-PVG-DFW over about 2 weeks in March. I'm getting fares of close to $4000 pricing the trip on sites like Vayama, Kayak, etc. I am AA Platinum, so I'd really like to fly on oneworld airlines. AA told me the cost would be $3699 + about $900 in taxes using the RTW option.

I'm new to this forum, and really tried to do my own research before posting. If anyone has any suggestions for finding better prices on this trip, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

RTW ticket will not gain any miles to partners on CX flights
 

Se when you are planning your trip being FT on other airline than CX, try to avoid CX as they will not give you amy miles. I was really dissapointed as almost half of my RTW trip was on CX and FT on AA. WI would have gain over 10,000 miles more toward my next tier using some other options (AY, JL).

My first RTW was with Star Alliance and I received full miles on each carrier to my EB, so I was kind of assuming same happen to here.... so better to check before you book.