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Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27061471)
The trains in Morocco are good. I was there in January
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 27062028)
If you have the opportunity, spend a few days at The Mamounia. It's a spectacular hotel, won Best Urban Hotel in the world a couple of years ago from Conde Nast Traveler. Churchill used to winter there after he retired. If it's unoccupied, they may be willing to take you around the Churchill Suite.
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Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27061413)
Me again:) This rule has been around for at least four years (looking back through my incomplete set of old rule sheets it was there in a 2012 rule sheet). So to summarise the rule: IF the fare has increased and prior to departure you wish to: - do anything at all to the first segment (even just a date/time/carrier change) and/or - change any of the ticketed points THEN you must pay the fare increase After you have flown that first segment then you will not have to pay the fare increase no matter what changes you want to make And of course if the fare has not increased then you have no problems at all:) |
Originally Posted by ajnaro
(Post 27062084)
Once, when the fare had increased, and before flying the first segment, I was able to change the routing of the second and a few later segments paying only $125 plus taxes. Is that in accord with the rules, or was I just lucky?
But as danger reported just today up thread it does seem that sometimes you can get away with that even now. |
Is name changes allowed with xONEx tickets? Of course, before using 1st coupon. The rule sheet mentions name changes only under group travel, I'm wondering about individual booking. And would there be recalculation of fare if it's allowed?
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A name change on any individual ticket is always a reissue. And a reissue means repricing.
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Originally Posted by christep
(Post 27088687)
A name change on any individual ticket is always a reissue. And a reissue means repricing.
The xONEx tickets allow the route after the first flight to be changed without repricing. That too would be a reissue or an exchange. I do not deny the accuracy of your conclusion (of which I have no knowledge) but a reissue/exchange is not always a reprice. |
supposed to fly dfw anc in a class on a done4 yesterday. planned to spend 25 hours in anc to do a day trip. flight was cancelled and rebooked today on the same day in Y with 1 hour at anc. nothing can be done. being tortured. dont even.get MCE..
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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27092489)
supposed to fly dfw anc in a class on a done4 yesterday. planned to spend 25 hours in anc to do a day trip. flight was cancelled and rebooked today on the same day in Y with 1 hour at anc. nothing can be done. being tortured. dont even.get MCE..
I don't know what sort of miles or points you get for twice DFW-ANC in Y but life is too short to spend it in Y. |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 27092507)
Forgive me, but why not cancel the segments and go somewhere else?
I don't know what sort of miles or points you get for twice DFW-ANC in Y but life is too short to spend it in Y. |
Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27092565)
cx said i need to pay for rerouting, will call aa rtw when it opens.
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Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 27092621)
Also worth saying that staff at the airport have much wider authority to amend your route than a call centre, including ignoring fare rules or other restrictions. They may be willing to endorse you onto AS.
aa rtw desk says they can remove the.2.sectors without fee, but i will need to.pay 125 for route change to.add.it back |
Originally Posted by christep
(Post 27088687)
A name change on any individual ticket is always a reissue. And a reissue means repricing.
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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27092489)
supposed to fly dfw anc in a class on a done4 yesterday. planned to spend 25 hours in anc to do a day trip. flight was cancelled and rebooked today on the same day in Y with 1 hour at anc. nothing can be done. being tortured. dont even.get MCE..
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 27098131)
Since DONEx allow free date/time/carrier changes, why not change the DFW-ANC and subsequent flights on a later date?
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Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 27100186)
The problem with that is the AA flights to ANC are seasonal, running for 7-12 weeks over summer.
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 27102232)
Was the poster scheduled for the last flights of the year, then? I could see how that would be a problem. If it was me, I wouldn't fly that distance in Y. Either reschedule or reroute.
did DFW ANC DFW with 1 hour turn... I had to fly to BOS after DFW. CX RTW said that I need to pay a routing change fee since AA did rebook me on DFW ANC the next day. AA RTW said they could drop DFW ANC DFW for me at no cost, but I would need to pay a routing change fee to add back the segment. As my remaining ticket is DFW BOS LAX DOH BCN DOH OSL DOH DUR. any rerouting would be complicated since the married segment logic by QR, and the low YQ that is currently in the ticket, together with the limited number of direct flight from BOS. It seems the best to fly the same day turn and credit the flight to JL and be done. After all, I have been to ANC 9 times. The main reason to go to ANC is that I had expected the revenue based earning wont start until Oct 1, and I was hoping to pick up 12000 miles per segment on DFW ANC DFW. |
Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 27105072)
The main reason to go to ANC is that I had expected the revenue based earning wont start until Oct 1, and I was hoping to pick up 12000 miles per segment on DFW ANC DFW.
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A member on Australian Frequent Flyer has posted some good news for those poor souls who purchase their Explorer fares (among others) from Qantas ex-Australia.
Qantas is abolishing the YQ on tickets issued from 1 September. http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201609/0901 |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27150504)
A member on Australian Frequent Flyer has posted some good news for those poor souls who purchase their Explorer fares (among others) from Qantas ex-Australia.
Qantas is abolishing the YQ on tickets issued from 1 September. http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201609/0901 |
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27150504)
A member on Australian Frequent Flyer has posted some good news for those poor souls who purchase their Explorer fares (among others) from Qantas ex-Australia.
Qantas is abolishing the YQ on tickets issued from 1 September. http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201609/0901 |
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 27158847)
Only ex-Australia. Not ex-NZ or ex- anywhere else.
Originally Posted by danger
(Post 27150504)
A member on Australian Frequent Flyer has posted some good news for those poor souls who purchase their Explorer fares (among others) from Qantas ex-Australia.
Qantas is abolishing the YQ on tickets issued from 1 September. http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201609/0901 |
Not sure if this has been discussed previously.
Has anyone had any luck booking segments in A class with QR when flying Middle East segments. More specifically, trying to use the online tool to book a CAI-DOH segment and its forcing me into economy. Fare rules state that QR flights in the ME with no D class can be booked as A class. If I make the reservation over the phone will they allow me to book A class? Thank you! |
Welcome to Flyer Talk OWRTW :)
That is a known bug with the online tool. You'll need to book directly with an airline or through a travel agent to get A class on QR middle east flights on a business class RTW. |
Thank you for the welcome and clarifying this issue Kiwi Flyer! :)
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 27181996)
Welcome to Flyer Talk OWRTW :)
That is a known bug with the online tool. You'll need to book directly with an airline or through a travel agent to get A class on QR middle east flights on a business class RTW. |
This should no longer be a bug. I emailed oneworld about this exact thing years ago when QR joined oneworld and they did fix it.
Have you tried checking different dates? |
Originally Posted by OWRTW
(Post 27181134)
Not sure if this has been discussed previously.
Has anyone had any luck booking segments in A class with QR when flying Middle East segments. More specifically, trying to use the online tool to book a CAI-DOH segment and its forcing me into economy. Fare rules state that QR flights in the ME with no D class can be booked as A class. If I make the reservation over the phone will they allow me to book A class? Thank you! QR seems to be restricting the A bucket quite tightly of late. |
Tried to change the dates but no luck in finding availability in A. I also tried to look for availability in A between DOH-DXB and couldn't find any on the 18 flights they run per day.
Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 27183945)
This should no longer be a bug. I emailed oneworld about this exact thing years ago when QR joined oneworld and they did fix it.
Have you tried checking different dates? |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 27185235)
Are you sure the flights have availability in A?
QR seems to be restricting the A bucket quite tightly of late. The majority of flights between DOH-CAI only have A as their premium cabin. The same goes for DOH-DXB. |
Originally Posted by OWRTW
(Post 27186490)
Do you mean restricting the A bucket to RTW tickets?
For instance, the availability for Friday two weeks for now is [as seen from an office in London], Code:
Frequency(There is no mechanism to restrict what kind of fare uses the bucket, except by modifying the fare rules. The fact that the AONE* products use the same bucket as discount first class fares is unfortunate.)
Originally Posted by OWRTW
(Post 27186490)
The majority of flights between DOH-CAI only have A as their premium cabin. The same goes for DOH-DXB.
The AONE* fares do not allow booking into F or P on QR. On QR, only A, D, L or Y may be used (in that order of preference). Code:
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Can Oneworld Explorer Fare start in Russia (Asia)?
I am trying to purchase an LONE3 or LONE4 starting in VVO with an internal S7 flight.
However, a UK travel agent I have previously used to book Oneworld Explorer fares before says "The Oneworld Explorer fare is offered from Asia, but not every city or country. In this case, Russia doesn’t offer one." However, I can get a quote for a fare on Expertflyer VVO-VVO. Does anyone have any comments or suggestions? Thanks |
Find a better travel agent!
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Any suggestions? I have been using a UK travel agent which does a lot of RTW bookings.
PM me if you wish. |
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Originally Posted by jrobin
(Post 27187689)
Any suggestions? I have been using a UK travel agent which does a lot of RTW bookings.
PM me if you wish. If your proposed itinerary has BA or AA segments, then you should be able to phone the airline to purchase the ticket |
Can Oneworld Explorer end with an overland segment?
Thanks for your helpful suggestions.
A related question for planning this trip: Can Oneworld Explorer end with an overland segment from where I really intend to finish to where I started? If so, are there any rules about it (e.g. overland segment must be in the same continent)? Thanks |
Originally Posted by jrobin
(Post 27187824)
Thanks for your helpful suggestions.
A related question for planning this trip: Can Oneworld Explorer end with an overland segment from where I really intend to finish to where I started? If so, are there any rules about it (e.g. overland segment must be in the same continent)? Thanks 4(c) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows (a) within the country of origin (b) within the Middle East (c) between the United States and Canada (d) between HKG and China (e) between Malaysia and SIN (f) within Africa (g) between Maldives & Sri Lanka/India |
Originally Posted by jrobin
(Post 27187551)
I am trying to purchase an LONE3 or LONE4 starting in VVO with an internal S7 flight.
However, a UK travel agent I have previously used to book Oneworld Explorer fares before says "The Oneworld Explorer fare is offered from Asia, but not every city or country. In this case, Russia doesn’t offer one." Thanks
Originally Posted by christep
(Post 27187622)
Find a better travel agent!
Originally Posted by jrobin
(Post 27187824)
Thanks for your helpful suggestions.
A related question for planning this trip: Can Oneworld Explorer end with an overland segment from where I really intend to finish to where I started? If so, are there any rules about it (e.g. overland segment must be in the same continent)? Thanks Code:
C.TRAVEL MAY ORIGINATE AT ANY POINT FOR WHICHEDIT: looking at the historical rules last November, they allowed Code:
C. TRAVEL MAY ORIGINATE AT ANY POINT FOR WHICH |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 27188676)
... But the fare rules in this case allow the final city to be different from the start city.
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C.TRAVEL MAY ORIGINATE AT ANY POINT FOR WHICH... The pdf document on the oneworld.com web site has exceptions (a) to (g); as do the fare rules listed in ExpertFlyer. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27188714)
Where do you look up the fare rules Calchas?
The pdf document on the oneworld.com web site has exceptions (a) to (g); as do the fare rules listed in ExpertFlyer. Maybe they now vary those rules a little by origin city. But then why include the India/Sri Lanka exception? |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 27189027)
I searched for CAI-CAI BA AONE6 on ExpertFlyer. The first was ticketing today and the second was ticketing 01 NOV 2016. In both cases ticketing at LON.
Maybe they now vary those rules a little by origin city. But then why include the India/Sri Lanka exception? However, I tried reproducing your result - and couldn't:confused: I would be very, very surprised if the fare rules differed based on origin city, or on any other criterion. I understand Oneworld is working on automating updates to the fare rules for all airlines in the alliance, which to me implies only one version for all. |
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