First you can lookup airport codes using the "quick links" up in the header.
Second, if you include Cuba on your ticket you cannot include any AA flights, which will limit your options in N. America.
Third, the Pacific islands options are severely limited on a ONE ticket. There are more options on the Global Explorer.
Lastly, no matter where you start a DONE4 and DGLOB34 are the same price. You are looking at a DONE6 based upon your destinations.

A GLOB34 isn't going to work unless you change your routing. http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=Mex-scl...OH-JNB-LHR-mex

Skunker, That's a great help. So a DONE4 and DGLOBE34 are the same price from the same start point - but different prices for different start points?

Yes. The price starting in 1 country can be different from another county. Look up the thread at other posts. The airline who issues the ticket, generally airline of the first flight, can make a big difference due to fuel surcharges/fees.

Note that you are limited to 16 segments on all tickets. Makes *ONE5. *ONE6 poor value compared to *ONE4.

Thanks, pandaperth. I'm starting from JNB, which is really the classic origin, isn't it? Also, the ZAR is currently as weak as it ever was to the AUD - there's $200-250 in savings between the fare this time last month - so it's a good time to buy. With Iberia codeshare from MRU-LGW-TFS, the Oneworld website quoted me DONE4 at about AUD$7,200 (70,000 ZAR). The AA desk wouldn't book me on the IB codeshare (only BA), so I'll find out later today what taxes will look like.

Yeah, that's the strange thing - the only available flights on any booking dates between July and October are either through MIA or together through GYE and LIM, which in itself turns a 1 segment flight into a 3 segment flight. I'll be traveling this part of the RTW in 2015, so my actual dates won't be available until next year, so it's only really about getting the itinerary down so the only thing to worry about are the date changes.

There is LAN availability on UIO-SCL right at the end on October 3, although my remaining 5 segments won't be "bookable" for at least a week, which is not a problem in itself, although it's risking the rarity that is this availability. In any case, a US125 fee might outweigh any current currency benefits, so best I book a flight rather than leave it as a surface segment.

FWIW I booked my present AONE4 directly with the AA agency in Capetown. They seemed (arguably) more capable than some of the current agents at the DFW RTW desk, including doing the fare calculation themselves after the rate desk hadn't done the job after three days. (In about half an hour, and accurately afaik.) They take c/c's over the phone with no fuss.

If you enter a short multicity one-way route into matrix.itasoftware.com and specify the carrier as AA+ you'll see if the codeshare is allowed (and the taxes and fees for the flight you tick). It's not someone being snotty - allowed codeshares are in the rules. For example for JNB-LHR to be allowed as AA codeshare the ticket must continue beyond London on AA.

After 7 days and 8 phone calls, was finally able to get a price from the AA Cape Town office. And it was almost accurate to the BA-codeshares quoted on the Oneworld Explorer app - identical YQ charges of 6689 ZAR, in total about $50 more (Iberia codeshare would have been $300 less though). In the meantime, the AUD-ZAR depreciated about $200, so there's added value in skipping MRU and flying JNB-xLHR-wherever on available AA codeshares like most here do - in total $900 less! And I suppose MRU or SEZ can be visited after the latter bookend. The US desk priced the taxes, so booking ahead with the RTW desk and later paying with the Cape Town desk would be save a lot of headache.

I spoke to the AA DFW office once and my experience with them was that they were generally more knowledgeable about the rules but were transfer-trigger happy. I needed to call the US desk on the weekend to extend my hold time and it was sort of amusing because it became a circular thing where one department would transfer me to the other department and it became a back-and-forth between the RTW desk and a general reservations desk. It was a raffle, so eventually I got hold of someone who would help me, who also informed me that Cape Town booked me into the wrong booking class for my AB Economy segments.

A few issues: At least two operators at the Cape Town desk are under the impression that LAN Argentina and LAN Ecuador cannot be booked on a RTW. And another two operators are under the impression that if D isn’t available, you must be booked in Y (It’s actually L, but if W is available, it’s that).

But they had access to flights unavailable on the OW app (including the regular EZE-GYE and GYE-SCL), so I had no way of booking this online if I wanted to.

FWIW I did not book a 16-segment AONE4 with Capetown, rather a simple 4-segment trip that got me on codeshares to the U.S. (presumably the only way to get AA codeshares from JNB) and back around. I didn't mind the $125 change fee I was going to have to pay to flesh out the trip because among other things I was worried about a possible price increase so I wanted to book 'NOW!' and didn't really know all the segments I wanted.

(Also serendipitously grandfathered myself on the two-extra-segments-per-continent benefit that disappeared on 1 July. )

Indeed. In fact, in the last week the Oneworld Explorer has stopped quoting me a base fare of 58,940 ZAR for most of my JNB-originating flights involving South America. It's now quoting 117,880 ZAR for everything except my oldest saved itinerary (and USD11,361 for AA-codeshares). That's just base fare.

So hopefully that's a bug and not a sign of another price increase.

I just went down to the MH ticket office at KL Sentral to get an MH operated flight changed on a CX issued DONE3.

Not only did they refuse to even look at making any changes, but they told me to talk to SQ.

Now, I've had a number of xONEx tickets in the past issued by a mix of QF, AA and CX and every time I've needed a change done, QF, AA, BA, CX, AY and JL have done it without complaints - regardless of who was operating the flight in question or who issued the ticket.

I think MH needs more training.

Qatar's love of married segments is causing me grief.

I'm trying to book DME-DOH-JFK as part of a DONE4, departing DME on the (second) last departure (about 7pm), nine-odd hour layover in DOH and onto JFK. However, despite ample D availability on both flights, it's only possible to book the earlier DME-DOH departure, making for a greater than 12 hour layover.

Is there anyway around it?

Would it be possible to book the last DME-JFK departure, create a stopover in DOH, then book DOH-JFK , and then after booking, attempt to move the DOH-JFK to one day earlier? I suspect the system will reject it but I thought if I made the change 'from the back end' (by moving the DOH-JFK flight rather than the DME-DOH flight) I might have a chance.

Are you trying to book as QR flight number?
Is an AA codeshare available on the same flight ?

Edit: Answer in part
DOH To New York (JFK), NY, US (JFK) 8:05 AM 2:05 PM AA7973+ 777 14h00m
Operated By Qatar Airways

Each airline will not be getting much $ from a DONE* fare

Brilliant. Thank you for that.

The codeshare doesn't seem to appear in the oneworld booking tool but it obviously exists so I'll try getting AA to input the AA codeshare and see if that works.

And better earning in the AA ffp. Do not put QR flight numbers to the QF ffp:- very low earning.

That worked perfectly. Thank you.

Glad to help.
Assuming you are collecting AA miles, AA codeshares can be very beneficial.

Even to QF ffp AA marketed are better than most other carriers
For example to QF freq flyer program for QR marketed flights
0.75 points/mile CDIJ Business :td: :td:
1.00 points/mile AFP First :td: :td: :td: :mad:

And I like a good red ;)

Online tool vs 'rules'
 

I thought I had a ticket all sorted through BA in South Africa but a phone call tonight put paid to that. They were telling me I was breaking some of the rules despite the online tool saying it's a valid itinerary.

JNB-LHR, LHR-LAX-DFW-SEA-DFW, DFW-LGA, LGA-DFW-LAX-HKG-BOM-HKG-DEL, DEL-NRT-SYD, SYD-HKG-JNB

Can someone point me to where I've apparently gone wrong? I guess to keep the ticket I'll have to modify the itinerary.

Not sure about your system of notation; does the comma indicate a stop, or what? Are you really planning to go LGA-DFW-LAX-HKG-BOM-HKG-DEL (i.e., 17 500 miles) without a break?

One potential problem:
Is your final visit to HKG (between SYD and JNB) a stopover - meaning more than 24hrs?
Since this is an additional visit to Asia, it must be a transit, meaning less than 24 hours

Everything else looks fine to me.
Some years ago there were reports here on FT that agents were disallowing the additional visit to Asia unless it was a transit between South West Pacific and Europe. However, the on-line booking tools allows other transits and so agents should have no reason to disallow your's.
FYI the actual wording of the rule is:

My guess is that it's what I'll call the "old" (restrictive) interpretation of the poorly-drafted rule 2(e)(2) -
The placement of the "between the Southwest Pacific and Europe" clause vis a vis the "or" has been interpreted differently over the years. Does it mean the only routing where you can use the "second Asia entry" rule is between the SWP and Europe, or between the SWP and anywhere else? People have been ticketed with your type of routing, or for example, Asia - SWP - Asia - N. America, but have also been turned down.

Your choices seem to be (a) phone and try again (always worth a shot) or (b) just book Qantas' nonstop SYD-JNB flight and be done with it, and use the remaining segment to make up some of the lost miles elsewhere.

I would agree that 2(e)(2) would seem to be the problem.

Another option in line with call again, is to forget trying to book with BA in SA and try to book with Mindpearl the AA GSA and see if they will intrepret the rule differently.

An update:

During the phone call I had asked for an email specifying the rule(s) I had broken.

I've checked my email this morning (AEDT) and have an email from them advising they have spoken to the fares desk and my itinerary as stands is valid.

Back to being a happy chappy.

By the way, the commas indicate a stopover, I'm no sure if there is a more appropriate way when posting here.
And yes, I am planning on flying LGA-DFW-LAX-HKG-BOM-HKG-DEL without stopping although there are a few lengthy transits. I did LGA-DFW-LAX-LHR-DXB last year :p

Generally writing it with an 'x' is a connection and either 'o' or nothing is a stop over.
eg: SYD-xNRT-JFK-xDFW-BNE would be Sydney-New York via Tokyo, returning to Brisbane via Dallas. It could also be written as -oJFK-.

Even better is to use lower case for transits and UPPER CASE for stops: SYD-nrt-JFK-dfw-BNE. The advantage of this system is that the entire string (which can sometimes be quite lengthy) can simply be cut-and-pasted into a tool such as the GCM or Mileage Monkey without the need for tedious deletion of extraneous characters. When you are asking someone for help with a routing, you want to make it as easy for them as possible. :)

cheers,

Henry

Has anyone dealt with RJ in AMM to make changes to a xONEx? I had a 16-segment DONE4 that is now a 17-segment due to a schedule change.

I am currently booked XXX-AMM-AUH-TXL-ORD but would like to change to XXX-AMM-DOH-ORD on QR. AA RTW cannot touch it due to the 17 segments and if I change the cities to reduce to 16 segments they want to reprice since I haven't started. They suggested to fly the first couple legs and they will reissue, which will allow changes.

So, can RJ handle this in AMM or am I SOL? :p

I have a query that perhaps someone can answer. I purchased a Oneworld Explorer ticket with BA in Egypt 11 months ago. It concludes soon with RJ flights from Moscow to Amman to Cairo.
My question is: Can I pay the change fee and switch those two RJ flights to QR and fly Moscow to Doha to Cairo?
I ask because QR was not part of Oneworld when I originally bought my ticket.
Is such a change to QR allowed or can I only fly QR on a Oneworld Explorer ticket that was issued after Qatar Airways joined Oneworld at the end of October?
Thank you.

In theory no, but it seems that AA will make the change.

Q: link to current pricing for oneworld
 

I have seen in the past a table which showed the RTW prices for various classes for different locations, but I cannot find it now. In the first page of this thread, there was a link to this (I think), I clicked on it and nothing happened.

Could you please help me? Thanks in advance!

Are there currently AA codes on the QR US>DOH flights?
I've seen mention that there is, but haven't seen any trace of them in the oneworld timetable.
(with a JFK-DOH flight on a DONE3, I'd get 5027 points to QFF on the QR code. With an AA code, I'd get 15,081 points...)

oneworld have decided not to publish such information.

You can try you own dummy bookings from various destinations using the online booking tool, or use a GDS based enquiry tools such as KVS or ExpertFlyer.

Several countries and the EU now require that airfare pricing be "transparent" with all applicable taxes and fees included in advertising. Since this is impossible with RTW tickets, as each itinerary will carry unique taxes and fees, Oneworld pulled the tables a couple of years ago.

Yes, the AA DOH-US codeshares have been around before QR joined oneworld and were the first ones they started.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/25/a...re-s13update2/

Thanks, serfty and Gardyloo, for the explanations.

So, we will not be able to see the RTW fares for various countries, as oneworld stops publishing them. How do people arbitrage to know which countries have the cheaper fares?

A relative wanted to do LONE4: SYD-LAX (s/o) - LON (s/o) - SGN (s/o) - SYD. I tried to price it in oneworld website and it said to contact QF!

I read in one of the posts here that it might be cheaper to start from AKL than from SYD. I would like to find out if this was correct. But, how?

expertflyer.com

The AA codes are showing up on aa.com and expert flyer, but don't seem to appear on any of the oneworld timetables or booking tool. :confused:

See posts 610 to 614 above, Codeshares not showing on oneworld timetables or the booking tool is not unusal nor is it new. If you want to use a codeshare you need to hunt for it

I've seen, found and booked AA codes on QF, BA, IB, CX, JL and RJ before via the tool without any issues (as well as IB and QF codes on BA, MH and IB codes on AY, QF on JL and AA, etc).
Until these AA on QR codeshares, the only time I haven't been able to find a codeshare was when that code wasn't available for booking, and it was still listed in the timetable.

AA7970 – 7989 is the first time I have ever found a codeshare that doesn't appear on oneworld listings at all.

Can't you book the QR code and then change to AA code after booking for free?

That's likely what I'll have to end up doing (unless I can find an agent in Korea or Japan willing to charge/issue ticket online).

I have a ticketed DONE3 that is about to be impacted by CX's cancellation of its JED (and AUH) flights.

The final sector of my itinerary is HKG-(xDXB)-JED. CX is discontinuing the DXB-JED segment from 30 March.

I'm really, really hoping they won't force me HKG-xKUL-JED on MH's vastly inferior J product.

Is the likely solution HKG-xAMM-JED? Or is there a better option out there?

Price increase for RTW Explorer from CAI
 

Cairo is now showing

DONE3 41,900 EGP = @$6020
DONE4 44,000 EGP = @$6300
DONE5 50,200 EGP = @$7200

I am sure I saw it on EF last week about $800 cheaper ?