Possible DONE routing
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QFWP, TG*S, ex-UA 1P
Posts: 329
Is the following possible on either a Oneworld Explorer or Global Explorer?
MEL-PER-SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-SXM-MIA-MSY-ORD-IAD-LHR-ATH-BCN-DUB-FRA-SIN-HKG-NRT-SYD-MEL
Fare is AUD9169 (less discounts) plus taxes in business class.
It's a mileage/SC run, and it takes in all of my favourite places.
Thanks
B
MEL-PER-SYD-AKL-LAX-JFK-SXM-MIA-MSY-ORD-IAD-LHR-ATH-BCN-DUB-FRA-SIN-HKG-NRT-SYD-MEL
Fare is AUD9169 (less discounts) plus taxes in business class.
It's a mileage/SC run, and it takes in all of my favourite places.
Thanks
B
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,910
As a mileage run / SC run and a trip to places of interest you could do a lot better, by maximising segments over 1000 miles, 2700 miles and 5000 miles (assuming you a QFF traveller)
eg NRT-MEL is 5040 miles, NRT-SYD is 4845 miles so less SC's
eg LAX-LHR is 5456 miles, IAD-LHR is 3677 miles so less SC's
Some short sectors may be better purchased separately, leaving the 20 DONE segments for longer flights
A good earner is to use CX from SW Pacific (Australia/NZ) to US, doing something like AKL-HKG-JFK. You can transit Asia (no stopover in HKG) without it counting as your Asia routing, saving that for the return journey. Where possible, enter and leave the USA from opposite coasts to the direction you are heading. eg SFO-LHR is a better earner than JFK-LHR. (this paragraph from a post by NM some time ago)
Many of your NA segments are under 1000 miles. Usually easy to get these over 1000 miles. You NA route seem to be circular type route, not back and forwards to maximise miles and SC's. See http://gc.kls2.com/
Have you checked all the segments are available in D ?
As for the SWP as you only have 2 allowable stopovers, I guess most segements are for miles - SC's. You have 12 months to do the RTW, so could have one stopover in MEL ( for 6 months) and another in say BME or DRW for 2 weeks. Also you don't have to start and finish in the same city, but when you do get back the RTW is finished. A sepertate ticket $100 MEL - SYD or similar may be good value at the start or end of the RTW
eg NRT-MEL is 5040 miles, NRT-SYD is 4845 miles so less SC's
eg LAX-LHR is 5456 miles, IAD-LHR is 3677 miles so less SC's
Some short sectors may be better purchased separately, leaving the 20 DONE segments for longer flights
A good earner is to use CX from SW Pacific (Australia/NZ) to US, doing something like AKL-HKG-JFK. You can transit Asia (no stopover in HKG) without it counting as your Asia routing, saving that for the return journey. Where possible, enter and leave the USA from opposite coasts to the direction you are heading. eg SFO-LHR is a better earner than JFK-LHR. (this paragraph from a post by NM some time ago)
Many of your NA segments are under 1000 miles. Usually easy to get these over 1000 miles. You NA route seem to be circular type route, not back and forwards to maximise miles and SC's. See http://gc.kls2.com/
Have you checked all the segments are available in D ?
As for the SWP as you only have 2 allowable stopovers, I guess most segements are for miles - SC's. You have 12 months to do the RTW, so could have one stopover in MEL ( for 6 months) and another in say BME or DRW for 2 weeks. Also you don't have to start and finish in the same city, but when you do get back the RTW is finished. A sepertate ticket $100 MEL - SYD or similar may be good value at the start or end of the RTW
#4

Join Date: May 2000
Location: Miami 7-Million Miler EXP
Posts: 829
Long Segments
[QUOTE=Mwenenzi]
A good earner is to use CX from SW Pacific (Australia/NZ) to US, doing something like AKL-HKG-JFK. You can transit Asia (no stopover in HKG) without it counting as your Asia routing, saving that for the return journey.
With regard to the above. You mean I can do AKL-HKG-JFK as a transit, then return to HKG from N/A without violating the rules? I thought this applied only if if the flight was a direct flight; i.e., AKL-(HKG)-JFK with one flight #. You mean I could do AKL-HKG and HKG-JFK with 2 different flight numbers, as long as HKG was a "transit"; i.e., < 24 hours?
Thanks. May help me build better mileage-earning RTW trips.
A good earner is to use CX from SW Pacific (Australia/NZ) to US, doing something like AKL-HKG-JFK. You can transit Asia (no stopover in HKG) without it counting as your Asia routing, saving that for the return journey.
With regard to the above. You mean I can do AKL-HKG-JFK as a transit, then return to HKG from N/A without violating the rules? I thought this applied only if if the flight was a direct flight; i.e., AKL-(HKG)-JFK with one flight #. You mean I could do AKL-HKG and HKG-JFK with 2 different flight numbers, as long as HKG was a "transit"; i.e., < 24 hours?
Thanks. May help me build better mileage-earning RTW trips.
Last edited by MiamiPrep; Apr 23, 2004 at 7:36 am Reason: Bold FOnt
#5
Original Member

Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
Posts: 19,593
You can do (SW Pacific)-HKG-JFK and then continue eastbound (e.g. LAX-LHR-HKG); there is no restriction on a single flight number or even airline (other than affecting the segment count towards the 20 segment limit). But transiting NRT is often better for miles and just as nice in J (you can go MEL-NRT-DFW or even MIA). Lots of alternatives, each has something good and bad about it, all depends what you are optimizing.
#6




Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Andover, MA, 01810
Posts: 1,988
Be careful about this. The only time your entry into Asia doesn't count is when you're doing a transit between SWP and Europe, not SWP and North America. So you can do your AKL-HKG-JFK but then when you go Europe-Asia-SWP, you can't have a stopover in Asia.
BTW, I'm curious if anyone has tried something like this before. The rules imply that when you make your Europe-Asia-SWP flights as your second entry to Asia, you should keep right on going and spend < 24 hours in Asia. But they don't actually say that. It seems that you can spend 3 days flying all around Asia as long as you don't have a stopover anywhere in Asia. Is this true?
BTW, I'm curious if anyone has tried something like this before. The rules imply that when you make your Europe-Asia-SWP flights as your second entry to Asia, you should keep right on going and spend < 24 hours in Asia. But they don't actually say that. It seems that you can spend 3 days flying all around Asia as long as you don't have a stopover anywhere in Asia. Is this true?
#7
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QFWP, TG*S, ex-UA 1P
Posts: 329
Transferring through Asia OK
I've just checked with QF. There's no problem going through Asia on the way from South West Pacific to North America AND then through Asia again on the way home from Europe.
The only limitation is that one of those vists to Asia MUST be a transfer. That is - you must fly in and out within 24 hours. If you break your journey and are in Asia for MORE than 24 hours, then that counts as a continental stop.
The only limitation is that one of those vists to Asia MUST be a transfer. That is - you must fly in and out within 24 hours. If you break your journey and are in Asia for MORE than 24 hours, then that counts as a continental stop.

