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kayzng May 19, 2024 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36245602)
I wouldn’t count on online checkin working ex CAI. It might.

who are you flying in on? If you have to switch terminals you’ll get to experience the finest in Egyptian bureaucracy. Feel free to reach out with questions - I’ve been doing ex CAI fares for a decades.

thanks for the prompt reply.
I will be flying in via QR, landed in Terminal 2.
Iberia is flying from Terminal 1, so I will need to switch terminal.
I am from Malaysia, dont need visa for Egypt, I suppose it would be easier?

ironmanjt May 19, 2024 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36245610)
I am from Malaysia, dont need visa for Egypt, I suppose it would be easier?

Are you certain IB is T1? BA is T2 and I’d expect IB might be the same.

Regardless I ageee you should clear immigration. Transfers at CAI are awful and it’s almost always faster to clear immigration even if you do need a visa. If you do need to go to T1 it’s walkable but there are no signs.

kayzng May 19, 2024 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36245614)
Are you certain IB is T1? BA is T2 and I’d expect IB might be the same.

Regardless I ageee you should clear immigration. Transfers at CAI are awful and it’s almost always faster to clear immigration even if you do need a visa. If you do need to go to T1 it’s walkable but there are no signs.

yes, it's T1, may be it's because operated by Iberia express? smaller plane.
my wife prefer to clear immigration, get our luggage then check in again, worried on the luggage going through with 2 different booking

ironmanjt May 19, 2024 8:29 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36245617)
yes, it's T1, may be it's because operated by Iberia express? smaller plane.
my wife prefer to clear immigration, get our luggage then check in again, worried on the luggage going through with 2 different booking

Oh if you have luggage checked absolutely do this. I’d even do it if I had to pay the $25 visa fee. With luggage it’s going to be a bit of a walk to T1 - you can wait for the transfer bus but…no promises. I’d probably get some US$ and just have a taxi make it easy for you even though it’s a 2-3 minute ride.

dvs7310 May 19, 2024 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36245648)
I’d probably get some US$ and just have a taxi make it easy for you even though it’s a 2-3 minute ride.

Probably best to have some cash anyway, but even that's not necessary anymore. During my last long transit there in January I found one of the bank booths for VOA actually take credit card now. I want to say it was the 2nd one from the right as you approach them from the terminal (this was T2).

I only found this out because I wanted to use leftover NZ$ to pay for it but they don't take NZ$ there (surprised as typically Egyptian currency traders will take nearly anything) and he mentioned I can use credit card. Saved my US$ cash for another day.


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36245648)
Oh if you have luggage checked absolutely do this. I’d even do it if I had to pay the $25 visa fee. With luggage it’s going to be a bit of a walk to T1 - you can wait for the transfer bus but…no promises.

There's also the inter-terminal train now (not airside) (Link), I've seen it buzzing around the last several times I've been through there.

ironmanjt May 19, 2024 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36245745)
Probably best to have some cash anyway, but even that's not necessary anymore. During my last long transit there in January I found one of the bank booths for VOA actually take credit card now. I want to say it was the 2nd one from the right as you approach them from the terminal (this was T2).

I only found this out because I wanted to use leftover NZ$ to pay for it but they don't take NZ$ there (surprised as typically Egyptian currency traders will take nearly anything) and he mentioned I can use credit card. Saved my US$ cash for another day.

This is a great datapoint - thanks. My last trip through I wanted to save my US$ and tried three booths in T2. None would take GBP, CAD, or AUD. since the devaluation the USD and EUR are definitely king. Really surprised at the credit card datapoint but good to know!

kayzng May 19, 2024 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36245745)
Probably best to have some cash anyway, but even that's not necessary anymore. During my last long transit there in January I found one of the bank booths for VOA actually take credit card now. I want to say it was the 2nd one from the right as you approach them from the terminal (this was T2).

I only found this out because I wanted to use leftover NZ$ to pay for it but they don't take NZ$ there (surprised as typically Egyptian currency traders will take nearly anything) and he mentioned I can use credit card. Saved my US$ cash for another day.



There's also the inter-terminal train now (not airside) (Link), I've seen it buzzing around the last several times I've been through there.

thanks, will take the train if it's available. Else can go with uber/taxi i guess

ironmanjt May 19, 2024 10:30 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36245745)
There's also the inter-terminal train now (not airside) (Link), I've seen it buzzing around the last several times I've been through there.

Wow. Did NOT see this a couple weeks ago - and I walked a lot. Be prepared to ask a lot of questions to find it. Signage at CAI is awful. Thanks for the datapoint!

dvs7310 May 20, 2024 4:12 am


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36245768)
thanks, will take the train if it's available. Else can go with uber/taxi i guess


Originally Posted by ironmanjt (Post 36245783)
Wow. Did NOT see this a couple weeks ago - and I walked a lot. Be prepared to ask a lot of questions to find it. Signage at CAI is awful. Thanks for the datapoint!

Yeah, I actually have no idea where the entrance to it is in each terminal. But I typically find the security staff lingering around the be helpful enough, I have gotten lost trying to walk T2 to T3 for the LeMeridien. I've got something like a 4-5 hour stop in July, will try to investigate.

I noticed the site mentions there's an airside version of it as well, which would shock me if true knowing how security obsessed that airport is. I've definitely seen the train in operation on a couple of visits though, so know it does exist somewhere.

allset2travel May 20, 2024 9:46 am


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36246149)
Yeah, I actually have no idea where the entrance to it is in each terminal. But I typically find the security staff lingering around the be helpful enough, I have gotten lost trying to walk T2 to T3 for the LeMeridien. I've got something like a 4-5 hour stop in July, will try to investigate.

I noticed the site mentions there's an airside version of it as well, which would shock me if true knowing how security obsessed that airport is. I've definitely seen the train in operation on a couple of visits though, so know it does exist somewhere.


https://www.cairo-airport.com/Automated-People-Mover

Partial quote from web site:
Thus, the vice president of the implementing company Bernard Schocker, who explained that this train is moving electronically on a kind of pillows and not on wheels and is using computer without human intervention. The video illustrates the Air-side and Land-side, The Airside is mainly for transit passengers passing from one terminal to another without going through customs as they are still in the transit area. As for the Land-side, it is mainly for the general public to use to move freely within the airport. All trains and stations were also provided with various fire alarm systems and emergency exits to ensure the safety and security of passengers with trains, stations and along routes.

jrobin May 20, 2024 2:52 pm

Last flight of an xONEx itinerary
 

Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 36233922)
Departure date and time is what is matters.

Quote:
7. MAXIMUM STAY Return travel from the last stopover point must commence no later than 12 months after departure.

So does this mean that an itinerary begun on July 1, 2023, say, could have its last flight depart on July 1, 2024, and that flight could arrive on July 2, 2024?

Thanks

jerry a. laska May 20, 2024 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 36247531)
Quote:
7. MAXIMUM STAY Return travel from the last stopover point must commence no later than 12 months after departure.

So does this mean that an itinerary begun on July 1, 2023, say, could have its last flight depart on July 1, 2024, and that flight could arrive on July 2, 2024?

Thanks

No. Your example departure on 1JUL24 would be one year and one day following the start of 1JUL23. Your last flight departure could be no later than 30JUN24 as that day would still be within 12 months of the start.

kayzng May 25, 2024 9:13 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 36246781)
https://www.cairo-airport.com/Automated-People-Mover

Partial quote from web site:
Thus, the vice president of the implementing company Bernard Schocker, who explained that this train is moving electronically on a kind of pillows and not on wheels and is using computer without human intervention. The video illustrates the Air-side and Land-side, The Airside is mainly for transit passengers passing from one terminal to another without going through customs as they are still in the transit area. As for the Land-side, it is mainly for the general public to use to move freely within the airport. All trains and stations were also provided with various fire alarm systems and emergency exits to ensure the safety and security of passengers with trains, stations and along routes.

Sharing my experience with taking the train (APM) from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1 today.

Stepping out from Terminal 2, lots of taxi drivers will offer their services to take you from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1. When ask if there is any train, they will just ignore the question. The rate was started at USD10, then dropped USD7, then final going rate seems to be USD5.

From Terminal 2, you can actually see a train track (at level 2) towards the right side. Just cross the road to the opposite building (is that Terminal 3), go up one floor, then the train stop is right there.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e6c53d41a.jpeg


The name of the Train Stop is Terminal 2, 3
It goes from
Terminal 2, 3 - Car park - Air Mall - Terminal 1
It's single track that the train go back and forth, all land side.

After I clear immigration in Terminal 1 (ie in air side), before going up the escalator to lounge. I saw this sign, so there might be an airside connection.
But I didnt manage to explore, my wife was a bit overwhelm with the chaos in Terminal 1.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ee3e1885d.jpeg

I will try my best not to ever transit in Terminal 1 again.

Traveller 935 Jun 2, 2024 4:01 am

Hi, hoping to get some feedback from the community on a DONE4 itinerary we're working on. We did one before in 2019 and for some lucky reason the routing at the time just worked with the RTW booking tool and it was easy to check validity to make sure we stayed within rules.

This time around there's a few segments in there (SYD-CMB and CMB-BKK on SriLankan in particular) which the RTW booking tool can't handle it seems. I've gone through the rules several times and think the below itinerary is ok - but if you see something which breaks the conditions please do nudge me!

OSL-LHR-IAD-SEA-ANC-DFW-MEL [side trip via CHC to NAN] NAN-SYD-CMB-BKK-KIX-CTS-HKG [side trip via CTU to ALA] ALA-DOH-OSL

Dr. HFH Jun 2, 2024 4:42 am


Originally Posted by Traveller 935 (Post 36276635)
Hi, hoping to get some feedback from the community on a DONE4 itinerary we're working on. We did one before in 2019 and for some lucky reason the routing at the time just worked with the RTW booking tool and it was easy to check validity to make sure we stayed within rules.

This time around there's a few segments in there (SYD-CMB and CMB-BKK on SriLankan in particular) which the RTW booking tool can't handle it seems. I've gone through the rules several times and think the below itinerary is ok - but if you see something which breaks the conditions please do nudge me!

OSL-LHR-IAD-SEA-ANC-DFW-MEL [side trip via CHC to NAN] NAN-SYD-CMB-BKK-KIX-CTS-HKG [side trip via CTU to ALA] ALA-DOH-OSL

You didn't mention which cities you actually want to go to versus which are just MRs. So I assumed that they're all interchangeable. The itinerary you have yields 44,452 BIS miles by Milecalc. Changing it to OSL-DOH-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-MEL-NAN-SYD-CMB-BKK-KIX-CTS-HKG-ALA-DOH-OSL increases it to 51,467 miles.

slhu82 Jun 3, 2024 1:03 pm

Question regarding surface segments and stop over.

If i have a flight CDG -> JFK, LGA -> MIA, I know that I will have 3 segments(2 flight segments + 1 surface segment), but does it count as 2 stopovers or 3 stopovers for NA?

pandaperth Jun 3, 2024 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by slhu82 (Post 36280165)
Question regarding surface segments and stop over.

If i have a flight CDG -> JFK, LGA -> MIA, I know that I will have 3 segments(2 flight segments + 1 surface segment), but does it count as 2 stopovers or 3 stopovers for NA?

JFK,LGA counts as one stopover, and MIA as a second stopover

(Not that it matters on a Oneworld Explorer. Other than a max of two stopovers in the continent of origin there is no restriction on stopovers)

chan1108 Jun 4, 2024 1:30 am


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36166664)
i will complete my first segment by 2nd June, after that I will give Qantas a call on changing dates and possibility add stop, see what's their response.
I will update here

Did you add stops successfully?

kayzng Jun 4, 2024 7:24 am


Originally Posted by chan1108 (Post 36281409)
Did you add stops successfully?

Hi,
I haven't try to add stop, because still undecided on the rest of the itinerary.

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 3:05 am

A quick update after my 55 minutes call with Qantas.
Here's my current itinerary
KUL - NRT MH88
HND - GMP JL91
ICN - KUL MH39

A few things I trying to accomplish,
1. Change from MH88 to MH70 and dates
2. Change from MH39 to MH67 and dates
3. Save the 2 surface segment between NRT-HND, and GMP-INC, by changing JL91 (HND-GMP) to JL5201 (NRT-ICN) (code share by Korean Air, found it in JL homepage)
4. If 1 is done, book myself under MH70 and my wife under QR5398, it's the same flight, but market under QR

Outcome,
1 & 2 - no problem, initially the agent said I need to pay fare difference. I said ok, pls check. After 15 minutes, she said, no need to pay.
3. She cant find it in Qantas system, thus cant change to this
4. She can split one booking to multiple (this was what chan1108 asked), so if QR5398 exist in Qantas system, then she would change for me. But same with 3, she cant find it. Thus no change.

Would like to get some advice, 3 & 4 sounds logic to me, should I give up or call with again or try with twitter team?

pandaperth Jun 5, 2024 4:36 am


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36283947)
...

Would like to get some advice, 3 & 4 sounds logic to me, should I give up or call with again or try with twitter team?

3. You cannot do it. Codeshares on KE are not allowed. The relevant rule is:

4(j) Travel on any AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL codeshare service operated by AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL is permitted.
Other codeshare services not permitted with the exception of QF Codeshare services operated by Jetstar (JQ).
ETA
4. I suspect that QR cannot put its codeshare flight number on the MH-operated flight, unless it has flown the passenger into KUL from DOH

izzik Jun 5, 2024 7:09 am

Why not just drop hnd gmp altogether from your rtw and buy it on your own?

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 7:25 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 36284302)
Why not just drop hnd gmp altogether from your rtw and buy it on your own?

this is one of the option I am looking at, drop this segment means I save 1 surface segment and 1 air segment.
But, I will need to pay USD120 for change fee, am I right?
with this in mind, I am trying to hold it first, till I finalize the rest of my itinerary, then change it at one go

dvs7310 Jun 5, 2024 9:51 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 36284040)
ETA
4. I suspect that QR cannot put its codeshare flight number on the MH-operated flight, unless it has flown the passenger into KUL from DOH

RTWs seem to be an exception to this. I've put plenty of random codeshares on my tickets that aren't related to my inbound flights and / or a connection with the codeshare carrier I'm using. I quite intentionally try to set them up to have as near zero AA, BA, and IB codes as possible, so do a lot of work looking for more advantageous codeshares to replace those where needed. I will certainly continue to do so until / unless AA reverses course and treats RTWs as Special Fares again. If they are treated as Special Fares again then they aren't nearly so punative on AA codes.

sony2012 Jun 5, 2024 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36284709)
RTWs seem to be an exception to this. I've put plenty of random codeshares on my tickets that aren't related to my inbound flights and / or a connection with the codeshare carrier I'm using. I quite intentionally try to set them up to have as near zero AA, BA, and IB codes as possible, so do a lot of work looking for more advantageous codeshares to replace those where needed.

it is weird to see stand alone flights are codeshared. I saw mad-Cai on Iberia one segment only but can book it with aa code....

When you book it with partner code, is there any difference in taxes? For example I see ba flights have higher taxes than jl on hnd-lhr route but if I book jl flight with ba code, do I pay jl taxes or ba taxes? I assumed it is ba tax because the flight is booked as a ba flight instead of jl...the reason I am asking this is because ba flights earn substantially more Alaska miles than jl

Perisai Jun 5, 2024 1:18 pm

Trying to change the date of my QF27 (SYD->SCL), which I booked as part of my DONEx, but facing a very sad picture in terms of availability.
According to expertflyer, the entire month of March 2025 is zeroed out on the flight for any business booking class but J and C. I know that the PoS might change things, but not optimistic that EG might have better availability than US.

Does anyone have experience with this route and the sales / booking class strategy from QF?
Is it likely that this will remain all zeroed out or is there hope for QF to release seats in the D booking class?

Mwenenzi Jun 5, 2024 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36285028)
It is weird to see stand alone flights are codeshared. I saw MAD-CAI on Iberia one segment only but can book it with AA code....

When you book it with partner code, is there any difference in taxes? For example I see BA flights have higher taxes than JL on HND-LHR route but if I book JL flight with BA code, do I pay JL taxes or BA taxes? I assumed it is BA tax because the flight is booked as a BA flight instead of JL...the reason I am asking this is because BA flights earn substantially more Alaska miles than jl

Real taxes, as paid to government and regulatory bodies, are exactly the same for every airline flying the same route with the same class of travel.
Airline carrier surcharges can vary with marketing and/or operating carrier. Hard to predict.
Do not confuse real taxes and YQ YR carrier surcharges (~100% airline profit)

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36284709)
RTWs seem to be an exception to this. I've put plenty of random codeshares on my tickets that aren't related to my inbound flights and / or a connection with the codeshare carrier I'm using. I quite intentionally try to set them up to have as near zero AA, BA, and IB codes as possible, so do a lot of work looking for more advantageous codeshares to replace those where needed. I will certainly continue to do so until / unless AA reverses course and treats RTWs as Special Fares again. If they are treated as Special Fares again then they aren't nearly so punative on AA codes.

are you getting the AA CS to allocate codeshare for you when you book the tickets?
i will certainly attempt again by emailing their twitter team.

Dr. HFH Jun 5, 2024 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 36284709)
RTWs seem to be an exception to this. I've put plenty of random codeshares on my tickets that aren't related to my inbound flights and / or a connection with the codeshare carrier I'm using.


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36285778)
are you getting the AA CS to allocate codeshare for you when you book the tickets?

IME the AA RTW desk will put any available codeshare on any flight, provided that there's availability in the proper fare bucket (L/D/A) on the codeshare. Note that it's not AA customer service, it's the RTW desk. I would guess that this does not apply to non-RTW tickets, which would be subject to the regular codesharing rules.

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36285815)
IME the AA RTW desk will put any codeshare on any flight, provided that there's availability in the proper fare bucket (L/D/A) on the codeshare. Note that it's not AA customer service, it's the RTW desk. I would guess that this does not apply to non-RTW tickets, which would be subject to the regular codesharing rules.

my ticket is RTW as well, when I called Qantas hotline, was told the QR codeshare didnt shown in their system, thus she cant book for me under QR, and can only book under the actual MH flight.

ironmanjt Jun 5, 2024 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36285853)
my ticket is RTW as well, when I called Qantas hotline, was told the QR codeshare didnt shown in their system, thus she cant book for me under QR, and can only book under the actual MH flight.


its QF. Take it with a grain of salt. HUCA.

Dr. HFH Jun 5, 2024 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36285853)
my ticket is RTW as well, when I called Qantas hotline, was told the QR codeshare didnt shown in their system, thus she cant book for me under QR, and can only book under the actual MH flight.

Yet another reason to use the AA RTW desk. IME if a codeshare shows in EF, the AA RTW desk will have it. However, that doesn't mean that you'll be able to get it, even when the flight is visible under the codeshare number to AA. You need visibility plus inventory, and inventory showing in EF isn't always available to AA or other partners.

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 9:25 pm

Quick question, if anyone has similar experience.
There are 2 pax under my current PNR booking, if I were to make any changes, for both pax together, assuming no fare changes.
do i need to pay the change fee of 125USD or 125USD x2?

LeSouris Jun 5, 2024 9:37 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36286000)
do i need to pay the change fee of 125USD or 125USD x2?

I have been charged 125 per person even on one PNR.

Mwenenzi Jun 5, 2024 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36286000)
Quick question, if anyone has similar experience.
There are 2 pax under my current PNR booking, if I were to make any changes, for both pax together, assuming no fare changes.
do i need to pay the change fee of 125USD or 125USD x2?

From RWR2 RULE 3015

2. After departure:
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125

My view would be 1 x 125, as the change is one transaction. 1 PNR with 2 e-tckets

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36286027)
From RWR2 RULE 3015

My view would be 1 x 125, as the change is one transaction. 1 PNR with 2 e-tckets

that would be my understanding based on the rules as well.
too bad now, in yesterday's attempt to book myself and wife under different codeshare, QF sent me updated booking, and created a new PNR for my wife. Now i have 2 different PNR.

Mwenenzi Jun 5, 2024 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36286064)
that would be my understanding based on the rules as well.
too bad now, in yesterday's attempt to book myself and wife under different codeshare, QF sent me updated booking, and created a new PNR for my wife. Now i have 2 different PNR.

So you have different flight numbers compared to your wife? That would be the reason 2 PNR's
Getting QF to make changes in high risk. QF agents are known for making errors. Many posts on AFF on poor QF agents.

pandaperth Jun 5, 2024 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by SP0 (Post 36286021)
I have been charged 125 per person even on one PNR.

Me too. One PNR, two people = 2 x USD125 = USD250

Changes made with the AA ATW desk.

kayzng Jun 5, 2024 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 36286076)
So you have different flight numbers compared to your wife? That would be the reason 2 PNR's

that was the intent, so I fly on MH code while my wife fly on QR code.
As they said they cant do it, so I am now with 2 PNR with same flight code.

dvs7310 Jun 6, 2024 9:59 am


Originally Posted by sony2012 (Post 36285028)
it is weird to see stand alone flights are codeshared. I saw mad-Cai on Iberia one segment only but can book it with aa code....

When you book it with partner code, is there any difference in taxes? For example I see ba flights have higher taxes than jl on hnd-lhr route but if I book jl flight with ba code, do I pay jl taxes or ba taxes? I assumed it is ba tax because the flight is booked as a ba flight instead of jl...the reason I am asking this is because ba flights earn substantially more Alaska miles than jl

If you actually mean taxes (meaning government imposed charges) then no, they are the same for any carrier serving an airport. But if you actually mean YQ / YR then yes it varies significantly depending on ticketing carrier / marketing carrier / departure point, etc. Those are wildly variable. You may experiences increases or decreases in total price, especially ex- CAI and ex-OSL. ex-Japan is a lot more stable since there's no YQ. And yes you most likely have lower surcharges on a JL code than BA since BA is one of the worst offenders in the entirety of the oneworld alliance.


Originally Posted by Perisai (Post 36285164)
Trying to change the date of my QF27 (SYD->SCL), which I booked as part of my DONEx, but facing a very sad picture in terms of availability.
According to expertflyer, the entire month of March 2025 is zeroed out on the flight for any business booking class but J and C. I know that the PoS might change things, but not optimistic that EG might have better availability than US.

Not unusual for that route unfortunately, I've followed it before as I have interest as well, but QF is very stingy on D availability. They must be organically selling it quite well at J or C levels.

Does anyone have experience with this route and the sales / booking class strategy from QF?
Is it likely that this will remain all zeroed out or is there hope for QF to release seats in the D booking class?


Originally Posted by kayzng (Post 36285778)
are you getting the AA CS to allocate codeshare for you when you book the tickets?
i will certainly attempt again by emailing their twitter team.

Absolutely not, it's either available or it's not. They can't just push availability in normal circumstances. But availability may be a bit different than you can see on your own.


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36285815)
IME the AA RTW desk will put any available codeshare on any flight, provided that there's availability in the proper fare bucket (L/D/A) on the codeshare. Note that it's not AA customer service, it's the RTW desk. I would guess that this does not apply to non-RTW tickets, which would be subject to the regular codesharing rules.


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 36285903)
Yet another reason to use the AA RTW desk. IME if a codeshare shows in EF, the AA RTW desk will have it. However, that doesn't mean that you'll be able to get it, even when the flight is visible under the codeshare number to AA. You need visibility plus inventory, and inventory showing in EF isn't always available to AA or other partners.

Careful about that because they'll generally require at least one AA long haul segment on an AA code. Additionally they have been known to disallow using non-AA codes on AA metal in the past. Sure they'll allow you to use any codeshare you want aside from those flights, but that can be significant.


Example on my next RTW itinerary I have:

HND-JFK (JL)
JFK-GRU (AA metal JL Code)
GRU-DFW (AA metal JL Code)
DFW-STL (AA code)
STL-SEA-DOH (AS, QR codes)

That would never in a million years be allowed by AA RTW desk. And would be detrimental to an AAdvantage member if it wasn't JL, AS, and QR coded.


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