Those would most likely be the post-devaluation prices. The cheaper prices listed are going to be the base fares. Anything short of $3500 US is definitely a base fare.

4700 post tax is a on the higher end these days - you’re probably choosing carriers with high fuel surcharges. Most of the tickets I’ve priced recently have come in closer to 3900-4400.

For comparison, pre devaluation fares were roughly 1500 higher.

Be careful when booking an AA codeshare. There may be different availability on the codeshare vs the metal airline For me, no A class on JAL from TYO on the AA codeshare, while JAL metal did have seats. Also, the JV airlines may have better inventory amongst themselves. I thought that to use a codeshare flight the prior flight had to be the same airline as the marketing codeshare airline, AA -> AA codeshare, but not AA -> QR codeshare.

thanks, not many options. I am flying IB (transathlantic), BA(only in and out of CAI, short flights), JAL over pacific and CX back to EU. On the flight options I got, I swtiched all the flights, and these were the cheapest. JAL flight from HND was not available on Business, so I booked CX with a stop in HKG. If I change it to the direct JAL flight later, will it reprice or is it only the change fee of 125USD?

Wasn't a critique - merely answering your question re: how these compared to pre-devaluation

Reprice is only triggered if you change routing. A change in carriers might trigger some additional YQ or taxes in addition to the 125, however.

This is always true for codeshares, not just AA.
Example: Finnair codeshare on BA metal
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5fa90a74d8.png

Changing HND-HKG-XXX to HND-XXX is a rerouting that triggers a reprice. It is not just a change in carrier as your ticketed points are changing.

Well, there is certainly a reprice in this case because switching from a stop in HKG to nonstop ex-HND is a routing change.

Correct - I was pointing out WHY this is a reprice.

It used to be just TATL that matters if both TATL and TPAC are present. Has to be AA marketed (no metal needed) to be autopriced under an AA fare. Said that any OW RTW fare can be ticketed on any OW carrier stock (it will be a permissible manual override with no preconditions). Both fare ownership and ticket stock follow same rule (default validating carrier logic).

thanks @jerry a. laska, @izzik, @ironmanjt
I booked it via qantas as oneworld web directs the ticket to them and i got the confirmation but I haven't received an e-ticket, are they supposed to send an e-ticket? if so, how long does it usually take after booking it?

From the Qantas RTW web page:I bought my RTW ticket last Monday
By Tuesday I could see the eTicket on the Finnair site, but still no receipt or eTicket emailed to me
I phoned on Friday and then I got the receipt and eTicket

The new tool does not seem to offer QR regional F despite it is still permitted by the rules.

Added: the issue in the tool is with something else as QR inbound to CAI is possible.

i got PNR almost immediately, credit card was charged the next day.
they didnt send any e-ticket, despite the first email with PNR mentioned what will send upon cc credit charged.
When i checked about 12 hours upon my booking, the PNR appeared in all airlines.
At 48 hours, they still didnt send the e-ticket, I called then they email instantly.

There's also a possibility that it won't automatically ticket because there's a problem with the booking. I hope this is not your scenario.

Pretty much identical....got a PNR instantly from the OW tool

Credit card charged and ticket number visible on the AY site approximately 22 hours later.

I'm not quite sure whether this or the other thread on the RTW is the correct one I have now had a look at the ticket rules for DONE4 (here ex CAI, issued by QF - but also in general for possible future trips). Let's assume I only want to change the flight times after ticket was issued, but not the points visited and/or the route:

.

So I am flexible before departure, but the base fare will always be adjusted to the fare valid at that time (let's assume it will increase case sooner or later from CAI)?

Now I have already flown leg 1 (outbound CAI to my hometown and purposely placed it quite early in the summer of 2024, while I will not start the actual RTW - further on from my hometown - until 2025).
* The base fare will not be adjusted subsequently?
* After departure of the 1st leg I can adjust times/days free of charge as long as the order of destinations remains unchanged?
* If I also want to adjust the order/destinations after departure of the 1st leg, I can do this for 125USD (per adjustment)?

Of course, all of this is subject to the basic rules (general routing, 16 segments, 34,000 miles).

Am I right or missing something?

sounds right. Basics:

before departure any change triggers complete reprice.

after departure as long as it’s just date changes no reprice.

after departure if you change routing is when it gets tricky. It will likely reprice to current fares which could be much higher.

I don't think this is true. A change of date to any segment other than the first one should not trigger a reprice, even before departure.

I also think that changes of routing after departure should not trigger a reprice of the whole itinerary, just the $125 fee, unless a continent is being added.

The rules are explained more clearly in this document: https://www.oneworld.com/images/faqs/oneworldFAQPDF.pdf .

Whether you can get a QF agent to actually follow these rules is a different matter.

I'm new to this so I welcome corrections.

called Qantas and they said the ticket was already issued but it seems like email was never sent, though they do claim that I should have received it. Anyway, they sent an email with e-ticket number promptly as if I never received the email. Now I have the e-ticket number. Hope i am all set.

Qantas has never e-mailed me a ticket...but can check the Finnair site and they'll list the ticket number if it's issued.

See also the section on Ticket Changes in the wiki to this thread.

Need some advice, my first segment from CAI - VIE is now assigned under IB Express and IB.
Can I still request it to assign to either RJ or BA? if yes, what are the potential charges that I need to pay?

It's a reprice if you haven't started the trip because this is a change in routing (CAI-LHR-VIE instead of CAI-MAD-VIE).
Also, I don't think RJ flies to VIE.

Just curious but didn't you just get this ticketed? Why the sudden change?

"Assign" isn't a concept in airline ticketing. You’d be asking to change the ticket which before departure of the first segment requires a full reprice.

That said only changing the routing from CAI-LHR should only involve a change in taxes and YQ. A few hundred dollars at most. But good look dealing with Qantas ticketing on this.

(edited because quote was missing a bracket)

Rule 4(l) states:

Does this mean that only one flight combination from each of the four lines is permitted, or that only one combination from the entire four lines is permitted?

From the wiki to this thread:

The online booking tool interprets this rule to mean you are allowed only one of the flights depicted on this map
However, there have been recent (2019) reports here on FT that some airline telephone agents are allowing one flight to or from each of the west coast cities (subject to the overall limit of four flight segments for the continent)

I recall seeing someone post about fees to upgrade an individual segment at one point in time. I think they were talking about Y to PY and it was pretty steep. I can't find that anywhere with search or Google now.

Can someone point me in the right direction or help with that info? I've got one segment on a DONE5 that could be attractive to upgrade to F, but currently there's no A availability on that segment (I have an EF alert set for it).

If I click on that map it opens YouTube but as far as I can tell, PER-SYD-DRW-SYD is not excluded, even though the tool tells me otherwise.


Subject to all the other rules and exemptions (e.g. intra-Middle East on two-class Qatar allows A on a DONEx), if any of your other flights are in A, I'm fairly sure you're up for an AONEx. Economy to premium economy is specifically permitted in the rules for an upcharge, but not business to first.

Y to PY, yes. It's in Section 12 here. In Section 16C, it notes that upgrading by sector to business/first class is not possible - you would be prompted to upgrade the entire thing from a DONE to AONE. Depending on the airline in question, you might get an upgrade offer and that could get you in F.

Ah ok fair enough. I thought I remembered something that allowed a single segment upgrade. I'm sure the new JL A351 business class is just fine but would have been awesome to experience the new F cabin.

I looked up JL's mileage upgrade, it's 45,000 miles, which translates into way too many Marriott points than I think it's worth, and not even sure JL can upgrade if it's not their ticket. Sure wish AA would finally implement JL upgrades with SWUs or miles... I have a feeling it's coming with the recent QF announcement but likely not soon enough.

I booked my first xONEx this week. Thanks again all.

DONE3 with AA
The trip starts towards the end of January.
Everything after the dotted line is for travel after March 2025, so not on the fare calendar.
The dummy dates for the remaining 14 segments were booked into available dates/flight numbers over the subsequent 18 days remaining on the fare calendar.

I can't wrap my head around how and when I change the dates to something that is wanted and is available. Trip ends ~August 2025.

Today, the fare calendar is only open to 13 February.

If we want to travel BKK-HKG around 18 February, I'll be able to see that next week. But I can't change the subsequent 13 segments at that time because they're off the calendar.
Say I wait another month to change the date of BKK-HKG. Then the subsequent segments can be rebooked, but mostly with placeholders.

I could wait until September when the whole calendar is open for our travel days.

Is that when we change the dates?

What are the chances there is no availability for TWO seats in D for our city segments in February? (At the time of booking, one of the placeholder flights that I found did not have availability which trickled down after the agent found a new date.)

Or do we wait until after departure and change the dates for everything with only 4-6 week in advance of the next travel dates?

We're (almost) completely flexible but I am planning a lot of side trips that I'd prefer to book early.

Hope I'm making sense.
Advice/best practices?

CAI xAMM RJ
xAMM BKK RJ
.................
BKK HKG CX
HKG DPS CX
DPS KUL MH
KUL NRT JL
NRT HNL JL
HNL ANC AS
ANC LAX AS
LAX SJO AA
SJO DFW AA
DFW SFO AA
SFO MIA AA
MIA DOH QR
DOH AMM QR
AMM CAI RJ

Red/bold, my emphasis.

Prepandemic, I used SWU to UG from D to First Class (the 77W metal on AA). From recollection only, AA actually UG'd me on 3 contiguous flights (all had F). If I found the exact routing, I'd post an update. BTW, I even had STOP-OVER (more than 24 hours)! I never thought that was possible!

question for changes
 

Regarding changes, I received conflict information.

Oneworld website mentions 12 months since your first depart date. Representative mentions 12 months since issue date. Anyone has idea?

Did QF book for you? Are you sure you change the ticket after March 2025? I heard that QF only allows change in the 12 months of issue date. NotJustDreaming

Will AA still issue xCAI around 4000?

Fare rule:

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

That said, almost all tickets are valid for one year from DATE OF ISSUE so that's independent of the fare rule. I wouldn't be expecting to use things more than 12 month past issue.

i am trying to book OW RTW. my first departure will be Dec 2024. I want my last leg around Nov 2025. It has not open yet. That makes me worried that they only allow me to change to anything before March 2025

Representative is wrong.

Almost all tickets except RTW tickets.

I've book dozens of AONEn tickets around 9-10 months prior to first departure date with dummy dates for many of the segments and then updated the dummy segments when the dates I wanted were available to be booked. I almost always commenced my trips in the late fall and end them in the fall of the following year resulting in 21 months, plus or minus, between the issue date and the date of the final flight segment for each of the AONEn tickets. On quite a few of those tickets I have routinely traveled over 330-360 day period from start of the first flight segment to the start of the last flight segment.

FWIW, I booked most of my RTW tickets with AA RTW desk, and few with BA, and one with JL many years ago. slhu82, you indicate you booked this through QF. It doesn't sound like they know the rules which could be problematic unless you get an agent that knows the rules when you go to make your changes.

I've also upgraded AA with SWU from GRU-JFK on a DONE5, but that's the only time I've been on the 77W on AA codes. Looks like now only MIA gets the 77W on GRU flights, my flight in August is 772, but I'm on a JL code again anyway, so couldn't upgrade regardless.

I'm pretty sure AA SWUs are for the entire itinerary in one direction up to 3 segments, regardless of stopovers. UA's don't work on stopovers, you do have to use a 2nd SWU in that case.

UA hasn’t had SWUs in years and years. But yes PlusPoints (PP) are good for a one way - but not a stopover. That said, I’ve made SIN-SFO-PPT work with 40 PP (same as 1 SWU) soooooo there’s value