Definitely no issues on QR, been through DOH now quite a few times on DONEx tickets. Always get the Al Mourjan or Al Safwa depending on the destination (a lot of middle eastern cities are First Class on QR)

Can anyone advise how do I set "open jaw" at final destination for xCai with the planning tool?
If I understand correctly, I can set my final destination without Middle East, would like to set it as Doha if possible

Just enter in Doha as the final destination and the automatic checker should pop up that it's a valid itinerary.

Unusual question as I book my next RTW:

On my first I prioritized getting:

• HEL-LAX for the strange line on my lifetime flight map
• SCL-SYD for my first south pacific crossing
• SYD-JNB for the Antarctica crossing (already did PER-JNB on SA years ago)
• SYD-NLK and SYD-AYQ because these are normally insanely expensive if purchased on their own

My question to the OW gurus (since I'm a Star Alliance guy usually): what other "unusual" routes could I add to my next OW RTW? Looking for unusual flights, fun lines to add to the lifetime map, etc. I'll attach the map for reference...I'm already planning HEL-SEA for the line when it opens up so that's on the map in white...

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I've flown SYD-JNB (or v.v.) a few times and have overflown Antarctica (or the sea ice off the coast) only once.

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For other routes that some might call "unusual," how about ANC-HNL? The difference can be quite dramatic in the northern winter. Or a couple of possibilities intra-state in Alaska, ANC-OME or ANC-OTZ. Go see the crazy seabed gold miners in Nome (or tour the remarkable, wildlife-filled Seward Peninsula) or stick a toe in the Arctic Ocean and watch the sun not set in Kotzebue, an Inupiat Eskimo community located north of the Arctic Circle. The same AS flight goes to both.

ANC-HNL is a great call! I'll look to add that one in.

My understanding is DONEx fares can't include intra-Alaska travel....otherwise I'd add BRW

The restriction is “only one flight to State of Alaska and one flight from State of Alaska permitted.” No restriction on flights within Alaska. But you will be burning NA segments.

Awesome - thanks for the suggestion - this is really helpful. I don't need to conserve NA segments so that's fine.

The rules - rule 4(k) only allow one flight to and one from, the state of Alaska. The rules are silent on intra-state travel, so BRW would be okay, as would Adak, if you want to experience the Aleutian chain. (Personal hint - both BRW and ADK wouldn't be my choices.) Go to Nome and rent a vehicle with which to explore the road system that radiates from the town into the Seward Peninsula bush.

Alaska's Nome Area Wildlife Viewing Guide

This is awesome - exactly the type of stuff I hoped to find when posting my comment. I love the whole northernmost thing for BRW...and ADK also looks awesome....but the driving from OME does look great....and this will be in June so pretty much perfect timing...

Portland (PDX) to Portland (PWM)?

You're way ahead of me, in terms of lines on the map :mad:


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That happens when you've been to all 193 countries....these are the silly games you play now lol....and I'm totally looking forward to SCL-SYD-JNB next month and SEA-ANC-xxx-ANC-HNL on the next RTW now! Maybe I'll have to add ANC-OGG after that...

Remember you're only allowed one flight to and one flight from, Alaska, and only one flight between Hawaii and the mainland. So ANC-HNL/OGG would have to be followed by a flight to Asia or the SW Pacific/Australia/NZ. Or if your RTW was west-to-east, you'd have to fly Hawaii > ANC at the start of the North American part of the trip.

I'm taking the weekly HNL-CXI flight so I'll be good there - but thanks for the reminder!

So this is using a Global Explorer and not a Oneworld Explorer? FJ is not (yet) an eligible carrier with the OWE.

Oh I guess it is - I didn't realize there was a difference and the tool doesn't make it clear. Is there any advantage to a OneWorld Explorer?

Oneworld explorer is 16 segments. Global explorer is mileage based.
See:
https://www.oneworld.com/world-travel

From what I'm reading aren't they both limited to 16 segments? Global Explorer being mileage based and OneWorld Explorer being number of continents based?

Yes, but you will often be unable to reach the same number of segments given the mileage restriction of a GlobEx that you can using an xonex. If you like to fly long segments in true business or first class (and not burn up segments in a regional or domestic business class) then you will find that your allotted mileage evaporates before you’ve been able to use all your available segments.

Stopovers are also limited with a GlobEx, especially the smallest one.

Thanks. I'm not one of those people who thinks shorter regional flights are a waste on a RTW. I'm not trying to maximize my time on a plane, but to get good value. (For example, the HNL-CXI is only a couple hours, but buying it in business class is nearly $2,000 on its own, so it's a great value.)

*ONE* and *GLOB* have some different rules. Easy to download the rules
More allowable airlines with *GLOB* (hence some more destinations~routes)

that's on my "to fly" list :D

Awesome! I just saw MRU-PER on your map, so added that to my list. Also added the new CPT-GRU as I try and flesh out my southern crossings!

...the only downside to CXI is that it entails spending a full seven days there (assuming Fiji is on time...which hasn't been the case for me) and I have zero idea how to occupy that much time!

That's definitely an interesting route, had no idea it even existed until yesterday. Would love to fly it after FJ joins OW, but also as ironmanjt mentions, no idea how to occupy 7 days there... maybe fly the local flight over to the main island for a few of them.

There’s no local flight - it’s a week. I’m considering it as an exercise in meditation and getting away from the 24/7 world. Who knows…maybe I’ll try fishing!

Ah ha, I was referring to the Air Nauru flight to Tarawa, but I see that's only once a week as well, and on Mondays so yeah wouldn't work out.

Ended up watching some YouTube videos on the island, seems fishing is the popular thing to do, also seems a charter to Fanning Island is popular for fishing, but doesn't seem too reliable.

Certainly look forward to FJ joining OW so these odd flights can be put into a greater xONEx itinerary. I've never been able to construct a Global Explorer under 34k miles that I was satisfied with.

34k seems a ton to me, but it all depends what you want out of your trip. I’m looking for odd destinations while I understand lots of folks want to see as many far flung places as possible. The benefits of being to every country I guess!

With regard to the AA rule about either TPAC or TATL being an AA flight, does an AA codeshare on someone else's metal satisfy the requirement?

When I go there, I plan to take a few books with me.
A hammock, under a palm tree, preferable with bar service ...:D

And I see [MENTION=19292]ironmanjt[/MENTION] has done the Micronesia island hopper - very jealous!

Forget bar service...I've been doing my research this week and best you'll get at the lodges is a fridge with a few cold beers in it...it really is a middle of nowhere place. I expect it to be like Tarawa or Tuvalu....where the only thing to do is...chill

Island Hopper was super cool...planning it again in 2025 with longer stops along the way. There's some super J fares if you know where to look... (sorry for the off topic)

The travel agent I'm working with can't autoprice these but I can't understand what rule I've flouted, any diagnosis would be appreciated...

​​​​​CAI-LHR-DOH-LAX-JFK-EZEo-JFK-HND-SINo-NRT-KULo-DEL-MEL-NRT-DOH-DUBo-DOH

CAI-LHR-DOH-DFW-EZEo-JFK-HND-SINo-NRT-KULo-AKL-MEL-DEL-HND-DOH-DUBo-DOH

Not an expert myself, but aren't you entering Asia twice?

Both itineraries appear OK to me

Yes this is true, but is allowed. As are the two entries to North America.
The relevant rule is:

1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa. If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.

I should probably already know the answer to this question, but can I convert from a DONE3 to DONE4 or DONE4 to DONE5 during a change? (Assuming the $125 fee for changes to ticketed points + the fare difference between 3 to 4 or 4 to 5)

Yes, I believe so.. but I only have my own ticket as a data point.

Others have reported the same, although individual AA agents may interpret it differently.

I called the AA RTW desk. To meet the requirement, it has to be AA metal. One thing that she told me was interesting. They can/will book any flight as an AA codeshare regardless of whose metal it is. You can use that to increase mileage earning depending on the rules of the program to which you're crediting.

FWIW, *A removed CAI from their list of possible starting points on their site.

what are the examples of the ticket prices from CAI before and after? i got 4700USD including the taxes, is that the normal prices exCai or is it cheaper because devaluation? I keep reading much cheaper prices but i am not sure if people talk about the base fare vs tax inclusive prices...