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Old Mar 19, 2018 | 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by 2old4coach
DFW does have First class dining in their Business class lounge.... I was there in February.
I was flying to Mexico as a EXP and got an invite. The lounge said her scan of my boarding pass said I was eligible.
To be clear, currently at DFW there is a mall room with a small buffet and small tables availble for oneworld First PAX and eligible Emeralds. There is no "a-la-cart". Waiter service is for drinks only, although you can self pour.
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Old Mar 20, 2018 | 4:22 am
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Originally Posted by serfty
To be clear, currently at DFW there is a mall room with a small buffet and small tables availble for oneworld First PAX and eligible Emeralds. There is no "a-la-cart". Waiter service is for drinks only, although you can self pour.
I went in there once, but never again. Utilitarian with absolutely no ambiance, rest of the Admirals club is much nicer IMO. I'll be at DFW next time on April 4 on my way to Hawaii. Hoping the Terminal A lounge will be open as reported here as my departure gate will in all likelihood be A24.
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Originally Posted by aaupgrade
I went in there once, but never again. Utilitarian with absolutely no ambiance, rest of the Admirals club is much nicer IMO. I'll be at DFW next time on April 4 on my way to Hawaii. Hoping the Terminal A lounge will be open as reported here as my departure gate will in all likelihood be A24.
Agree about abmbience, but the food in there was much better; so a quick visit.
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Old Apr 5, 2018 | 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Full Score
Have just flown on AA SAN-MIA-GCM with a five hour layover in MIA at 5am. As Emerald (BA Gold) I was pleasantly surprised to be invited into the new Flagship Lounge in MIA. In my experience, on past occasions MIA-GCM had not been considered a true "international" flight for purposes of using the Flagship Lounge; this time, even though I was flying Economy out of MIA, I used it - and very pleasant it was, even having had no sleep.
Originally Posted by MADPhil
BA Gold is good for Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge access with any Oneworld departing flight, it is not good for Flagship First dining which requires international or certain transcontinental First class.
Just for clarification, only people who are OneWorld Emeralds and Sapphires by virtue of their AA status are subject to the "international only" limitation on access to Flagship Lounges. All other OW elites are permitted Flagship Lounge access. ("International" for purposes of lounge exclusion means flights to/from specific countries or continents and excludes Canada, the Caribbean and all airports in Mexico except for MEX, which is considered "international").
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Old May 20, 2018 | 12:06 pm
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Hi,

I recently had an interesting experience which I am not sure what the official rule is for OW as on the OW website, the different exceptions there are not very clear to me as they separate it into Tier eligibility and First/Business class eligibility.

I am AA Exec Plat. I flew on Day 1 LHR-JFK-LAX (arriving after midnight) and on Day 2 (in the same itinerary) LAX-HNL. On Day 1 I did not have any problem accessing the lounges, however on Day 2, I had wanted to use the QF First lounge but I was denied access because I was told that my international flight was on Day 1 and had no international flight on Day 2. I was connected to someone from AA and I was told now because my day 2 flight needs to be before 6 am (and also some other rules - which sounded very illogical. Furthermore this before 6am policy seems to be only applied on First/Business class travel).

Anyway, just wondering what is the official policy? I have never had problems with Skyteam lounges (where no lounge access is granted for domestic fligts) as long as everything is within 24 hours (even with separate tickets). In my opinion it is really silly that if you have everything in the same ticket and it is less than 24 hours, that you are denied access as there is no way someone can travel for some flights in the current policy.

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Old May 20, 2018 | 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by nldogbert
Hi,

I recently had an interesting experience which I am not sure what the official rule is for OW as on the OW website, the different exceptions there are not very clear to me as they separate it into Tier eligibility and First/Business class eligibility.

I am AA Exec Plat. I flew on Day 1 LHR-JFK-LAX (arriving after midnight) and on Day 2 (in the same itinerary) LAX-HNL. On Day 1 I did not have any problem accessing the lounges, however on Day 2, I had wanted to use the QF First lounge but I was denied access because I was told that my international flight was on Day 1 and had no international flight on Day 2. I was connected to someone from AA and I was told now because my day 2 flight needs to be before 6 am (and also some other rules - which sounded very illogical. Furthermore this before 6am policy seems to be only applied on First/Business class travel).

Anyway, just wondering what is the official policy? I have never had problems with Skyteam lounges (where no lounge access is granted for domestic fligts) as long as everything is within 24 hours (even with separate tickets). In my opinion it is really silly that if you have everything in the same ticket and it is less than 24 hours, that you are denied access as there is no way someone can travel for some flights in the current policy.

Cheers!
AA exec plat does not get any lounge access when travelling solely on North American flights like your LAX-HNL flight (there are a few exceptions), so any access to lounges at LAX on your trip would have to be based on your LHR-JFK flight cabin class - I am assuming you were in F on LHR-LAX? What was the class of your travel on LAX-HNL?

In terms of connecting flight the oneworld rules are:

https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access

Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:
  • First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
  • Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
  • You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight
As you were not connecting same day or before 6am the following day the QF agent was correct and your LHR-LAX flight no longer counted when trying to access the lounge and there was no
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Hi Karfa,

Thanks but I do understand what you have quoted above re AA Exec Plat for domestic US flights. As it was connecting from an international flight in the same ticket, I would say that even if I was flying Economy (so not based on ticketed class), that it is not clearly stated if I should have access or not.
For me the First/Biz rules would be more applicable for passengers without status or a lowly Ruby.

My LAX-HNL flight was in First but since I arrived the previous day on my LHR flight, I was told that it was not eligible. This is what makes me so frustrated about it, to me this seems like it is AA that is stingy in providing/paying the lounge access that's why they have such a rule because basically nearly 99% of their flights would not be meeting it (lounges will most probably be closed for flights leaving just before 6 am) so they can easily deny their members from using the lounges.

So no matter what situation, as an OWE with AA, this is how they avoid paying the lounge fees. I know this is mainly impacting AA members, but it's just such a PITA.

Cheers!
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Old May 21, 2018 | 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by nldogbert
Hi Karfa,

Thanks but I do understand what you have quoted above re AA Exec Plat for domestic US flights. As it was connecting from an international flight in the same ticket, I would say that even if I was flying Economy (so not based on ticketed class), that it is not clearly stated if I should have access or not.
For me the First/Biz rules would be more applicable for passengers without status or a lowly Ruby.

My LAX-HNL flight was in First but since I arrived the previous day on my LHR flight, I was told that it was not eligible. This is what makes me so frustrated about it, to me this seems like it is AA that is stingy in providing/paying the lounge access that's why they have such a rule because basically nearly 99% of their flights would not be meeting it (lounges will most probably be closed for flights leaving just before 6 am) so they can easily deny their members from using the lounges.

So no matter what situation, as an OWE with AA, this is how they avoid paying the lounge fees. I know this is mainly impacting AA members, but it's just such a PITA.

Cheers!
well the connecting same day or before 6am is a oneworld rule, i can't think of any oneworld airlines which offer a more generous allowance than that. the rule i quoted is clear though and i don't think there is any doubt that the agent was correct in your case.

regardless of your connection point, if your point is why do AA not allow their status holders to access lounges based on status when travelling on domestic flights i can sympathise. it has been like this for a long time though and i doubt it would change anytime soon. perhaps look at earning some oneworld status with an airline other than AA?
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