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Gardyloo Nov 23, 2018 12:20 pm

Just noticed that ex-CMB might be worth a look again.

pbd456 Nov 23, 2018 7:34 pm

How much saving are people willing to pay for D vs I

In programs that I care, D has much better earning than I for a few airlines.

Dr. HFH Nov 23, 2018 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 30459441)
Just noticed that ex-CMB might be worth a look again.

Indeed! After not having checked in a while, I saw your post and took a look at a random two week trip in April. I'm always in the market for roundtrips to BOS in J. $1,757 on Jet/Virgin Atlantic/Delta. My usual ride on that route, QR, is $4,810.

headinclouds Nov 24, 2018 8:16 am


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 30460286)
How much saving are people willing to pay for D vs I

In programs that I care, D has much better earning than I for a few airlines.

Only IONE3, no others. IONE3 $5400 vs DONE3 $6000. The only issue I noticed is that I is never available on the AA 321T flights. Limited are flights to Hawaii and the Caribbean Island nations. For BA, I vs D is minor. No issues with I class on IB/QR.
Edit: Spread is a bit larger than I remember, IONE3 $5340 & DONE3 $6140, $800 difference. Japan still best for DONE3 @ $5810.

anabolism Nov 24, 2018 9:49 am

I see ex-CAI xONEx fares on AA, QR, JL, CX, UL, etc. (but not BA). $7,886 for DONE4, $8,110 for DONE5. Can't recall if they were gone for a while or just jacked up.

pbd456 Nov 24, 2018 3:32 pm

Qr had an old fare until it was pulled on aug. A short while after, the new fare level was filed on all airlines.

headinclouds Nov 24, 2018 6:32 pm

And now ex-CAI are in hard currencies, no more EGP prices...

anabolism Nov 24, 2018 7:17 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 30462755)
And now ex-CAI are in hard currencies, no more EGP prices...

How do you tell what currency a fare is priced in? I don't think EF shows it, does it?

Calchas Nov 24, 2018 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30462826)
How do you tell what currency a fare is priced in? I don't think EF shows it, does it?

IATA determines which currency to use for international fares originating each country.

The list is published somewhere*, presumably it was changed recently for Egypt.

EF does show it in the routing information for some fares, depending on the upstream provider.

* Edit: “somewhere” is Resolution 024a.

pandaperth Nov 25, 2018 12:30 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 30462926)
...

EF does show it in the routing information for some fares, depending on the upstream provider.

...

EF is showing the base fare currency for ex-Egypt fares
and the fares are still in EGP
Though much more expensive than they were before the fare was pulled, in late 2016

In late 2016, the base fare for a DONE4 was EGP44,000
now it is EGP141,000
prior to the EGP devaluation in November 2016 - that EGP44,000 equated to about USD5,000
After the devaluation is equated to about USD3,250
(see this 2016 thread for discussion of the old fare - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...w-tickets.html)

The new base fare now equates to about USD7,900
So certainly no longer the bargain it once was

BUT should the EGP get devalued again...

Calchas Nov 25, 2018 4:58 am

Thanks for clarifying

anabolism Nov 25, 2018 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 30462926)
EF does show it in the routing information for some fares, depending on the upstream provider.


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 30463299)
EF is showing the base fare currency for ex-Egypt fares
and the fares are still in EGP
Though much more expensive than they were before the fare was pulled, in late 2016

Thanks, I never thought to look in the routing rules for the currency of a fare, but there it is:

Code:

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 DONE4 D‡R 7886.00 ---- -/‡ -/12M RW01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-CAI TO-CAI CXR-QR TVL-12DEC18 RULE-3015 RWR2/346
FARE BASIS-DONE4 SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BRW RT-BUSINESS CLASS AROUND THE WORLD
EGP141000.00 0043 E06FEB17 D-INFINITY FC-DONE4 FN-5A
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 19AUG18/0910 EXPIRES INFINITY


headinclouds Nov 26, 2018 7:56 am

But the conversion rate is off a little bit. Looking at the Sri Lankan fares, they are using a rate of 178.4 LKR/ US$, while the rate on Sunday was 179.4 and today it is 180.2 I believe that Calchas stated that the bank rates are only updated once per week. Is this still true? When I bought my ex-CAI ticket 4 days after the devaluation over a weekend, I got the higher rate. Just curious.

skunker Nov 27, 2018 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30464974)
Thanks, I never thought to look in the routing rules for the currency of a fare, but there it is:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...-rtw-fare.html
;)

medicus Dec 20, 2018 6:21 am

Must book RTW through 1st carrier...?
 
Just got off the phone with the AA RTW desk (well at least that's the number I called...) to make a new booking, and the agent I tried to book with refused to make the booking, saying that they've been told to tell customers that they must now make new bookings with the airline of the 1st flight. In my case this would be CX. (I want to start ex HND.)

Has anyone else had this experience? Or did I just get an inexperienced agent...

I may try againg in a few hours and see if I get a different response...

Thx in advance

Medicus


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