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Himeno Mar 5, 2018 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by pyffii (Post 29489188)
thanks Calchas I pretty much expected your confirmation but I am not that keen on JFK-LAX_MEL !!!....Guess I might just have to do it though...Cheers

Calchas was suggesting QF12 all the way through to SYD, ie -JFK-SYD-MEL-BNE-MEL-SYD-NRT
With QF12 out of JFK often delayed, connections to MEL can sometimes be missed with the flight released and MEL connections from JFK moved to the BNE or SYD flight upon landing in LAX.
Since you don't have a US transcon on the current plan, there is also the option of JFK-SFO-SYD, or if after September, SFO-MEL on some days.

QF fly BNE and MEL-NRT and SYD-HND, JL fly SYD-NRT and MEL-NRT
The QF BNE and MEL-NRT flights are day flights north, overnight south. HND is overnight in both directions.
JL has a day flight north from SYD and south to MEL and night flights north from MEL and south to SYD.

G-CIVC Mar 5, 2018 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by wijibintheair (Post 29483088)
Do you mind me asking what price it was out of TLV? I assume the connection to a Muslim country was TLV - AMM?

It was 6200 USD for DONE3 (+1000 for another continent), I guess it's a competitive price nowadays but some veterans here may know better.

It was TLV-HKG-MLE-HKG in one go - yeah just for points for that MLE turnaround. But regardless, I didn't have to present my itinerary before proceeding to check-in so it wasn't an issue.

pyffii Mar 6, 2018 3:36 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 29490702)
Calchas was suggesting QF12 all the way through to SYD, ie -JFK-SYD-MEL-BNE-MEL-SYD-NRT
With QF12 out of JFK often delayed, connections to MEL can sometimes be missed with the flight released and MEL connections from JFK moved to the BNE or SYD flight upon landing in LAX.
Since you don't have a US transcon on the current plan, there is also the option of JFK-SFO-SYD, or if after September, SFO-MEL on some days.

QF fly BNE and MEL-NRT and SYD-HND, JL fly SYD-NRT and MEL-NRT
The QF BNE and MEL-NRT flights are day flights north, overnight south. HND is overnight in both directions.
JL has a day flight north from SYD and south to MEL and night flights north from MEL and south to SYD.

Thanks Himeno for your reply....Yes I am aware of all of those options and have flown every which way home from the west coast and to be frank just hate all the options....As we are retired JFK-HKG-MEL suits us better as we spend a couple of nights in HKG and that eases the jetlag and then the overnighter from HKG arrives at 11.30am a most civil time when Melbourne airport is deserted and from landing to the Limo is about 15 minutes !!
So thats why we are looking to come home via HKG....Currently we are doing DONE5's from JNB but the rand has moved dramatically against us so thinking we may need to start from HND and trying to see if its is allowable to come home via HKG

christep Mar 6, 2018 7:07 am


Originally Posted by pyffii (Post 29491071)
a couple of nights in HKG

This is a problem I believe. People have reported success in getting transits (<24 hours) ticketed like this, but I don't recall anyone every getting a stopover ticketed on similar itineraries.

anabolism Mar 6, 2018 7:27 am


Originally Posted by pyffii (Post 29491071)
So thats why we are looking to come home via HKG....Currently we are doing DONE5's from JNB but the rand has moved dramatically against us so thinking we may need to start from HND and trying to see if its is allowable to come home via HKG


Originally Posted by christep (Post 29491566)
This is a problem I believe. People have reported success in getting transits (<24 hours) ticketed like this, but I don't recall anyone every getting a stopover ticketed on similar itineraries.

The rules say "Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin" so I don't see why it would be a problem to route HND- ... RTW ... -oHKG-oHND.

christep Mar 6, 2018 7:39 am


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 29491635)
The rules say "Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin" so I don't see why it would be a problem to route HND- ... RTW ... -oHKG-oHND.

That's fine.

What isn't fine as I understand it is HND-<Europe>-<N America>-o<Asia>-<SW Pacific>-<Asia>-<HND>.

Whether HND-<Europe>-<N America>-x<Asia>-<SW Pacific>-<Asia>-<HND> is fine may depend on who you ask.

Wasabi Tofu Mar 7, 2018 11:34 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 29491683)
That's fine.

What isn't fine as I understand it is HND-<Europe>-<N America>-o<Asia>-<SW Pacific>-<Asia>-<HND>.

Whether HND-<Europe>-<N America>-x<Asia>-<SW Pacific>-<Asia>-<HND> is fine may depend on who you ask.

???
Current rule says:


4. FLIGHT APPLICATION/ROUTINGS

(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:

1. Two permitted in North America.

2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.

3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.

pandaperth Mar 7, 2018 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu (Post 29496672)
???
Current rule says:

4. FLIGHT APPLICATION/ROUTINGS

(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:

1. Two permitted in North America.

2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.

3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.

And neither of the visits to Asia is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East
Therefore the itinerary will not be valid

pyffii Mar 7, 2018 6:30 pm

Thanks all...will call AA and report back but I guess the only option is to fly JFK-MEL-SYD-HND....or stay with orginating in JNB and pay the extra

pyffii Mar 10, 2018 6:15 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 29497083)
And neither of the visits to Asia is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East
Therefore the itinerary will not be valid

Rang JL and they confirmed that this itinerary is in fact invalid so need to fly JFK-SFO-MEL etc....Thanks all for your advice

ccuser11 Apr 29, 2018 3:23 pm

Hey everyone, I started research for DONE4, I thought I share base fare with rest of you.

Airport BF Currency
cai $2,490 (USD)
alg $6,994 (USD)
nrt $7,140 (USD)
kwi $7,157 (USD)
amm $7,193 (USD)
tlv $7,200 (USD)
ktm $7,228 (USD)
OSL $7,272 (USD)
khi $7,388 (USD)
isb $7,388 (USD)
cmb $7,441 (USD)
ARN $7,481 (USD)
AMD $7,499 (USD)
jed $7,602 (USD)
ist $7,685 (USD)
doh $7,991 (USD)
mpm $8,034 (USD)
jnb $8,222 (USD)
dxb $8,506 (USD)
lca $8,528 (USD)
hel $8,528 (USD)
dme $8,528 (USD)
mla $8,528 (USD)
lhr $8,641 (USD)
bgw $8,750 (USD)
akl $8,976 (USD)

Source: ExpertFlyer ; pulled on Apr 28 2018

Can anyone advise if any better ex-pricing point exist, compare to what I have pulled?
Additionally, Can someone share details on why ex-CAI are invalid? I am curious what is the reason behind barring ex-CAI fare? I tried searching but nothing relevant is coming up.

Thanks,

aaupgrade Apr 29, 2018 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by ccuser11 (Post 29696922)
Can someone share details on why ex-CAI are invalid? I am curious what is the reason behind barring ex-CAI fare? I tried searching but nothing relevant is coming up.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...w-tickets.html

ACN Consultant May 15, 2018 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by ccuser11 (Post 29696922)
Hey everyone, I started research for DONE4, I thought I share base fare with rest of you.

Airport BF Currency
cai $2,490 (USD)
alg $6,994 (USD)
nrt $7,140 (USD)
kwi $7,157 (USD)
amm $7,193 (USD)
tlv $7,200 (USD)
ktm $7,228 (USD)
OSL $7,272 (USD)
khi $7,388 (USD)
isb $7,388 (USD)
cmb $7,441 (USD)
ARN $7,481 (USD)
AMD $7,499 (USD)
jed $7,602 (USD)
ist $7,685 (USD)
doh $7,991 (USD)
mpm $8,034 (USD)
jnb $8,222 (USD)
dxb $8,506 (USD)
lca $8,528 (USD)
hel $8,528 (USD)
dme $8,528 (USD)
mla $8,528 (USD)
lhr $8,641 (USD)
bgw $8,750 (USD)
akl $8,976 (USD)

Source: ExpertFlyer ; pulled on Apr 28 2018

Can anyone advise if any better ex-pricing point exist, compare to what I have pulled?
Additionally, Can someone share details on why ex-CAI are invalid? I am curious what is the reason behind barring ex-CAI fare? I tried searching but nothing relevant is coming up.

Thanks,

cant speak to the ex-CAI fare, but ex-YYZ (or any Canadian starting point) prices out to $8,442 USD

ACN Consultant May 31, 2018 3:39 pm

SEZ BA rtw fare valid?
 
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a4a4e706ea.png
Does anyone know if the SEZ rtw fares loaded on EF are actually ticketable? I tried using the tool to go MLE-LGW to start so it would book on BA, but then every city turned invalid.

Calchas May 31, 2018 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by ACN Consultant (Post 29814799)
Does anyone know if the SEZ rtw fares loaded on EF are actually ticketable? I tried using the tool to go MLE-LGW to start so it would book on BA, but then every city turned invalid.


Not aware of anyone ticketing it so far.

Possibly a TA could do it.


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