Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#811
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 188
Yes its LIR as in Liberia and yes thats the issue....Have a flight on the 23rd but N/A on the 22nd...and yes, each segment seperately shows D availability but when strung together causes an issue with no D availability just J which is of no use......Spoke to many humans at the AA RTW desk including the supervisor who could only waitlist...she try to manually request seats but the system refused to queue and so we are out of luck for the 21st....there is no way as time elapses that seats will open up as AA have reduced the number of available Business Class seats...Really stumped by the lack of D availability so far out
#812
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
If it were me, I'd schedule an overnight in MIA, then after ticketing, see if you can get someone at AA to shift MIA-LIR to be a day earlier. If not, MIA isn't a bad place for an overnight.
#814
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
#815
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
Posts: 12,757
#816
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 188
there are only 2 flights a day from MIA to LIR so the schedule doesnt allow for just over 24 hours and because of the transcontinental rules can only connect via DFW or ORD to MIA....can get D on DFW-MIA-LIR on July 22nd but not YVR-DFW-MIA-LIR !!!
#817
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
Maybe schedule with an overnight in DFW, allowing you to book YVR-DFW // DFW-MIA-LIR. Then, after ticketing, you can try moving the date of YVR-DFW to be a day earlier, making it a connection. The married segment logic at AA is pretty sophisticated, so it might not allow it, but it may be worth trying.
It's unfortunate that you can't set EF alerts for connections, only segments, so there's no way to get an EF alert if D opens up for YVR-LIR as a set of connected flights.
It's unfortunate that you can't set EF alerts for connections, only segments, so there's no way to get an EF alert if D opens up for YVR-LIR as a set of connected flights.
#818
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,467
[FARE GONE] ex-SEZ rtw fares
Just had a look in ExpertFlyer, and it appears that the fares I posted about on Sept 3rd (see Post#781) are no more.
Congratulations to all those who managed to jump on board
TBH, I'm surprised the fares lasted so long
Congratulations to all those who managed to jump on board
TBH, I'm surprised the fares lasted so long
#819
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 2,638
Just had a look in ExpertFlyer, and it appears that the fares I posted about on Sept 3rd (see Post#781) are no more.
Congratulations to all those who managed to jump on board
TBH, I'm surprised the fares lasted so long
Congratulations to all those who managed to jump on board
TBH, I'm surprised the fares lasted so long
#820
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,035
#821
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London (~75% of the year).
Programs: AA PPro
Posts: 477
Sharing some reticketing experience with BA for an ex-CAI DONEx -- I recall there being a thread more specific to that but can't easily find it.
As mentioned by many others, reticketing with the AA RTW helpdesk was rejected as they didn't have a filed fare exCAI and refused to reticket. I tried briefly with CX and JL but in the end was able to do it with BA sufficiently easily I didn't explore if those would have been possible and cheaper on surcharges etc.
The most useful thing I learned which I've not seen mentioned here is that BA has a RTW helpdesk in Europe whom you can email: [email protected]
Emails seems to go into a queue which then takes ~2 days to get picked up, but once picked up you get a specific agent to work with whom you can ask to speak to (they'll call) and will generally be more responsive on emails (sometimes same day, at least next day). I guess there's a risk they'll be out that day but it all worked really well the two times I used them. I'd avoid ticketing with BA due to their higher fuel surcharges policy but if there was reason to use BA I'm now almost as happy doing so as with AA and their RTW helpdesk (which I prefer as you can directly call them 7 days a week).
The desk is only open during EU working hours Mon-Fri IIRC so I did also do some date changes via calling BA. That was generally very painful until I found an out of hours number which worked far better: +44 191 246 3933.
As with all my prior AA reticketing experiences, it was impossible to get a breakdown on how the taxes and surcharges were being calculated. I tend to use ITA Matrix to look up one-way pricing to see likely taxes and surcharges and it was broadly correct. I did learn that BA at least will load up fuel surcharges for flights after a stop in Brazil or Hong Kong. I had previously hoped that the laws there preventing excessive fuel surcharges for tickets from there would apply but BA not unreasonably said they didn't given the ticket was not originating there. I'm not sure if AA et al have the same policy.
As mentioned by many others, reticketing with the AA RTW helpdesk was rejected as they didn't have a filed fare exCAI and refused to reticket. I tried briefly with CX and JL but in the end was able to do it with BA sufficiently easily I didn't explore if those would have been possible and cheaper on surcharges etc.
The most useful thing I learned which I've not seen mentioned here is that BA has a RTW helpdesk in Europe whom you can email: [email protected]
Emails seems to go into a queue which then takes ~2 days to get picked up, but once picked up you get a specific agent to work with whom you can ask to speak to (they'll call) and will generally be more responsive on emails (sometimes same day, at least next day). I guess there's a risk they'll be out that day but it all worked really well the two times I used them. I'd avoid ticketing with BA due to their higher fuel surcharges policy but if there was reason to use BA I'm now almost as happy doing so as with AA and their RTW helpdesk (which I prefer as you can directly call them 7 days a week).
The desk is only open during EU working hours Mon-Fri IIRC so I did also do some date changes via calling BA. That was generally very painful until I found an out of hours number which worked far better: +44 191 246 3933.
As with all my prior AA reticketing experiences, it was impossible to get a breakdown on how the taxes and surcharges were being calculated. I tend to use ITA Matrix to look up one-way pricing to see likely taxes and surcharges and it was broadly correct. I did learn that BA at least will load up fuel surcharges for flights after a stop in Brazil or Hong Kong. I had previously hoped that the laws there preventing excessive fuel surcharges for tickets from there would apply but BA not unreasonably said they didn't given the ticket was not originating there. I'm not sure if AA et al have the same policy.
#824
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
#825
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,035
I'd like to make date changes before flying the first segment just to protect against D inventory no longer being available, but I can wait until after flying a few segments to make the date changes. Not sure if calling QR would be the best approach either way. Have heard horror stories about having QR make changes to an RTW.
While the rule allows date change before departure for subsequent sectors, however, airlines tend to re-issue the entire ticket for date changes. With no current fare filed at the same rate, it could create problem.