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Originally Posted by ajnaro
(Post 27000512)
Something strange here -- I just looked at oneworld rtw MPM fares on expertflyer.com (8.55pm, NY time), and I got US$ 2722.83 for DONE5. This actually nearly the same as I paid on July 11th. Maybe my connection to experflyer.com is faulty?
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Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 27001228)
If you notice the fares I posted were after your call. It will depend on when they price it. Watch the itinerary on AA.com and it will give you your price before you call. Good luck!
Watch the itinerary on AA.com and it will give you your price before you call. Good luck! |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 27001286)
That's what I'm worried about. I finished up with the agent at 4 and called back at 4:50 (10 minutes before they closed) and it hadn't been priced yet.She said call back tomorrow.
I booked it using my BA FF account. I can see that about 75% of my flights were booked at 25% of my husbands. Ill look tomorrow to see if it will show me the fare. Thanks!! |
Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 27001342)
Did you make the booking with AA or BA? The FF account doesn't matter, just the airline PNR. If it was AA then use the PNR they gave you (or look it up) and check AA.com
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Passenger x 1
$5,261.00 Taxes $330.26 Carrier-imposed fees $510.30 Total (all passengers) $6,101.56 And there you have it. I started a new ticket because the agent told me that the fare had not gone up. So, now we have no tickets. |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 27001433)
Passenger x 1
$5,261.00 Taxes $330.26 Carrier-imposed fees $510.30 Total (all passengers) $6,101.56 And there you have it. I started a new ticket because the agent told me that the fare had not gone up. So, now we have no tickets. On to the next deal. |
Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 27001484)
Sorry about that. Most of the time the advice given on FT is better than the advice given by the airline/hotel/etc. Remember that you could have changed the routing and dates after ticketing for $125.
On to the next deal. With all the changes I was making she suggested I start from the beginning and then she confirmed the rate was the same so I went with it. The real kicker is that the CDG-DOH-SEZ route at the end was accepted. For all who have purchased these RTW tickets before, where does $6100 fall on the scale of good deals? Particularly when you plan on traveling to two of the places on your itinerary anyway and you were already going to be in Africa (for a previously arranged trip) at the start of your RTW. And, someone mentioned that these are similar to South Africa RTW prices. How similar are they? |
I posted the fares for WDH which are now equal to South Africa. Your fare is still cheaper and until recently would have been considered a fairly good deal. Check CAI though.
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Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 27001618)
I posted the fares for WDH which are now equal to South Africa. Your fare is still cheaper and until recently would have been considered a fairly good deal. Check CAI though.
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Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 27001618)
I posted the fares for WDH which are now equal to South Africa. Your fare is still cheaper and until recently would have been considered a fairly good deal. Check CAI though.
While it sucks, I would agree with this sentiment. There is a lot of merit in booking even with the current deals. These are still some of the best prices on the market. To put it in perspective, a BA I class fare on some random dates in November is going for $4639 RT just from JNB-ORD. The reverse is $6345. There was no way those fares in the $2K range would last. |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 27001563)
For all who have purchased these RTW tickets before, where does $6100 fall on the scale of good deals? Particularly when you plan on traveling to two of the places on your itinerary anyway and you were already going to be in Africa (for a previously arranged trip) at the start of your RTW.
And, someone mentioned that these are similar to South Africa RTW prices. How similar are they? The ex-MPM fares fell into the "Excellent Deal" category. IIRC the only other deal to fall into that category was the ex-Sudan fares back in 2012 (I snagged one of them too:)) I've heard there was an excellent ex-Mauritius fare some time back too, but that was before my time here. I'm sorry you missed out at the last minute SDandi. You were late to the party, but learnt really fast and seemed good to go. I especially liked your finish of CDG-xDOH-SEZ as your way of getting back to Africa:). (I visited SEZ on my way to KRT to start my ex-KRT DONE4 in 2013 - so I've ticked that place off my list already) |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27001751)
I've heard there was an excellent ex-Mauritius fare some time back too, but that was before my time here.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 27002036)
Indeed, that is true. What's more, the BA office there misinterpreted the rules so we all got tickets with a routing to which we were not entitled.
What was the misinterpretation and what were the fares like back then? |
Hi! Can you check my route (Global explore fare)
DME (Russia)-MAD MAD-PTY PTY-MGA (surface) MGA-MIA (stopover) MIA-UIO (stopover) UIO-GPS GPS-GYE (stopover) GYE-LIM LIM-SCL SCL-IPC IPC-SCL(stopover) SCL-SYD SYD-BKK BKK-NRT (stopover) NRT-KHV (Russia). Two airlines said me, that I should come back to DME (Moscow, Russia). But in rules D. Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows: (a) within country of origin |
Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002429)
Two airlines said me, that I should come back to DME (Moscow, Russia).
But in rules D. Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows: (a) within country of origin That shouldn't have any impact on this rule, but some airlines might claim otherwise. The routing looks fine. You have flights left over. Any reason you can't add on a KHV-OVB-DME at the end? |
If I add KHV-OVB-DME it will be 17 flights.
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Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002520)
If I add KHV-OVB-DME it will be 17 flights.
That's also where you have a problem. -UIO-GPS-GYE-LIM-SCL-IPC-SCL- is 6 flights in South America. You're only allowed 4. |
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 27002534)
So it is... I missed the IPC flights when I checked.
That's also where you have a problem. -UIO-GPS-GYE-LIM-SCL-IPC-SCL- is 6 flights in South America. You're only allowed 4. The Global Explorer rule differ from the Oneworld Explorer rules in this respect The Global Explorer rule is maximum of 4 stopovers per continent, not a maximum of four flights |
Why?
Flights and stopovers - Select up to 16 flight segments on your round-the-world itinerary. Travel between two airports by surface transportation will count as one flight segment. - Each tier includes the following stopover allowances: Tier 1 – Minimum two. Maximum five (including a maximum of two within a region). Tiers 2, 3 and 4 – Minimum two. Maximum four within a region. All tiers – A maximum of two stopovers are permitted in the region of origin. I can have more than 4 flights/segments is the South America region. |
Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002429)
Hi! Can you check my route (Global explorer fare)...
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 27002534)
That's also where you have a problem. -UIO-GPS-GYE-LIM-SCL-IPC-SCL- is 6 flights in South America. You're only allowed 4.
Edit - ooops - I'm getting slow in my old age! :D |
But now, how I can explain to airlines that my all route is ok?
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And now, how I can explain to airlines, that all my route is ok?
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Great circle mapper shows the total mileage as 34501, so this is a 39000 GE as far as I can see.
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Is it a problem?
I can choose LGLOB39 39000 (ECONOMY ONLY) |
Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002563)
But now, how I can explain to airlines that my all route is ok?
Airlines look for the most restrictive rules and I think they have you on this one: C/TRAVEL MUST BE IN A CONTINUOUS FORWARD DIRECTION BETWEEN TC1-TC2-TC3 The problem is Russia is split between two TC areas - European Russia in TC2 and Asian Russia in TC3. Start in European Russia, you have to return to European Russia. In other words start in TC2, you have to return to TC2. Also, are you trying to keep your mileage under 34,000? Your itinerary is just over; remember surface segment miles have to be included - dme-mad-pty-mga-mia-uio-gps-uio-lim-scl-ipc-scl-syd-bkk-nrt-khv Forget this comment - I see you're thinking of an LGLOB39, allowing you up to 39,000 miles |
No, not a problem - just checking that you know that the surface sector has to be counted, which pushes it over 34000 miles.
It looks OK to me, although with Russia being split between TC3 and TC2 I can see that there is some slight ambiguity. It's the only case in which you don't start and end in the same TC, although the fact that the start and end are in the same country and that is explicitly allowed would seem to make it fine for me. Maybe try to get a different airline to ticket it? |
Would this work for you?
dme-mad-pty-mga-mia-uio-gps-uio-lim-scl-ipc-scl-syd-nrt-bkk-ovb-dme |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27002633)
Would this work for you?
dme-mad-pty-mga-mia-uio-gps-uio-lim-scl-ipc-scl-syd-nrt-bkk-ovb-dme |
So maybe you can start from somewhere just East of the Urals - in other words in Asian (TC3) Russia? Such as:
ovb-dme-mad-pty-mga-mia-uio-gps-uio-lim-scl-ipc-scl-syd-bkk-nrt-khv |
Also, I have just remembered this from the fare rules
ALL OTHER CODESHARE FLIGHTS ARE NOT PERMITTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF QF CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY AIR TAHITI NUI-TN So you could fly IPC-PPT-AKL-SYD instead of IPC-SCL-SYD It does take one extra segment, but you get Tahiti and New Zealand |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27002668)
So maybe you can start from somewhere just East of the Urals - in other words in Asian (TC3) Russia? Such as:
ovb-dme-mad-pty-mga-mia-uio-gps-uio-lim-scl-ipc-scl-syd-bkk-nrt-khv |
I like the way you think:)
But no - I seem to remember reading somewhere on FlyerTalk just recently that a surface segment is required to have a flight segment before it and a flight segment after it. (Makes sense to me.) So a surface segment OVB-DME at the start won't work either:) |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27002679)
Also, I have just remembered this from the fare rules
QF has a codeshare on TN PPT-AKL So you could fly IPC-PPT-AKL-SYD instead of IPC-SCL-SYD It does take one extra segment, but you get Tahiti and New Zealand For this route I already need US visa, Shengen, Australia and Japan:( |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 27002679)
Also, I have just remembered this from the fare rules
QF has a codeshare on TN PPT-AKL So you could fly IPC-PPT-AKL-SYD instead of IPC-SCL-SYD It does take one extra segment, but you get Tahiti and New Zealand |
Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002745)
And as I know, it's hard to find ticket IPC-PPT-AKL for this fare. For example, no tickets for January 2017.
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Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002688)
Or maybe I can make KHV-DME surface segment? Is it ok?
You can always have a KHV-DME flight that is far into the future, to use the next time you go to Moscow? |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 27002823)
An air ticket cannot start or end with a surface sector.
You can always have a KHV-DME flight that is far into the future, to use the next time you go to Moscow? |
Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002688)
Or maybe I can make KHV-DME surface segment? Is it ok?
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Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 27002823)
An air ticket cannot start or end with a surface sector.
You can always have a KHV-DME flight that is far into the future, to use the next time you go to Moscow? |
Originally Posted by Olga Kulikova
(Post 27002909)
And if I understand right, I can change date of flight for free?
Remember, the last flight must be within one year of the first flight |
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