New or changed routes and services
#31



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IB restarting MAD-JNB 3x weekly from August.
http://ftnnews.com/aviation/29227-ib...annesburg.html
I'd say good news for those trying to avoid BA YQ.
http://ftnnews.com/aviation/29227-ib...annesburg.html
I'd say good news for those trying to avoid BA YQ.
As soon as it starts showing in the online tool I will be comparing the cost of itineraries beginning JNB-MAD with itineraries beginning JNB-LHR.
#32



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CX is commencing 4xweekly HKG-LGW services in September 2016
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...on-travel.html
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...on-travel.html
#33



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CX is commencing 4x weekly service to MAD in June 2016
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...ch-Madrid.html
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...ch-Madrid.html
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IB restarting MAD-JNB 3x weekly from August.
http://ftnnews.com/aviation/29227-ib...annesburg.html
I'd say good news for those trying to avoid BA YQ.
http://ftnnews.com/aviation/29227-ib...annesburg.html
I'd say good news for those trying to avoid BA YQ.
The total cost is very similar to that quoted by the tool if BA is the first carrier
I am currently working on an LONE6
If I start CPT-(BA)-LHR-(AA)-MIA... then the all-in cost of my itinerary is ZAR49,244
If I start JNB-(IB)-MAD-(AA)-MIA... then the all-in cost falls to ZAR48,891
So a difference of just ZAR353 which in the scheme of things is hardly worth bothering about.
#36
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It is quite relevant to those spending AAdvantage pesos, because there is a YQ surcharge for awards involving BA, and a much lower YQ for IB. Not so important for paid tickets.
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I was solely focussed on the possible YQ effect on paid tickets - specifically Oneworld Explorer tickets
But for AA award tickets the effect would be significant - pay the nominal YQ AA collects for IB flights vs the hefty YQ it collects for BA flights
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Agreed, not so much price difference in that case. For RTW and such tickets I think the main benefit would be in opening up additional routing possibilities, e.g. for those who are tight on a segment limit or trying to keep under a Global Explorer tier.
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Very good news, as it adds more route options, the IB new J seems better than BA's J, and allows one to avoid the horror of LHR.
I guess the route is permanent, not seasonal? I'm looking to put together an ex-JNB DONEx that would start in January 2017, and EF timetable search shows the IB MAD-JNB flights only through October:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
But EF shows it operating in January:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
I guess the route is permanent, not seasonal? I'm looking to put together an ex-JNB DONEx that would start in January 2017, and EF timetable search shows the IB MAD-JNB flights only through October:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Timetables Search: Search MAD to JNB on 09/20/16 up to 7 days Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft IB 6051 0 MAD 11:45 PM JNB 9:55 AM +1 333 Duration Frequency Effective Ending 10 hrs 10 mins M,Th,F 08/01/16 10/28/16
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search
Departing MAD on 01/05/17 12:00 AM 3 Day(s) for JNB
Flying OneWorld
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability
0 Connections
IB 6051 0 MAD JNB 333 M,Th,F
01/06/17 11:45 PM 01/07/17 10:55 AM NA / NA
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Code:
TD21OCTMADJNB/AIB ** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TD ** JNB JOHANNESBURG.ZA 21OCT16 28OCT16 1 IB6051 145 MAD4S JNB 2345 0955+1 0 01AUG16 28OCT16 333 10:10 TD06NOVMADJNB/AIB ** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TD ** JNB JOHANNESBURG.ZA 06NOV16 13NOV16 1 IB6051 145 MAD4S JNB 2345 1055+1 0 31OCT16 24MAR17 333 10:10
#42
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Anyone here have any idea how much the savings is flying through MAD instead of LHR? Also checked bags. Do checked bags generally connect reliably at MAD?
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QR to AKL New Zealand. From http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11603279
Qatar Airways has confirmed it will begin a non-stop, more than 18 hour service between Doha and Auckland - set to become the world's longest flight - on December 3.
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It has been posted in another thread that QR is also commencing services to other destinations as well.
Qatar's Auckland route is now official, as well routes to:
Windhoek, Seychelles, Krabi, Chiang Mai and Helsinki
http://airlineroute.net/2016/03/09/qr-aug16/
Windhoek, Seychelles, Krabi, Chiang Mai and Helsinki
http://airlineroute.net/2016/03/09/qr-aug16/
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