Do Oneworld awards cover all destinations?
Oct 27, 2014 | 5:37 am
#1
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Do Oneworld awards cover all destinations?
I have been looking at using my BA or AA points to do some travel in Argentina.
I just cannot find any award flights on LAN between Buenos Aires (AEP) and Ushuaia (USH).
Both BA and AA award search engines simply say OW does not fly there.
Has any online readers been able to use award miles on some of these out of the way places like to USH
or
is it the case that award destinations are restricted to the more popular routes and the rest are not accessible?
I just cannot find any award flights on LAN between Buenos Aires (AEP) and Ushuaia (USH).
Both BA and AA award search engines simply say OW does not fly there.
Has any online readers been able to use award miles on some of these out of the way places like to USH
or
is it the case that award destinations are restricted to the more popular routes and the rest are not accessible?
Oct 27, 2014 | 8:45 am
#3
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Here are some flights between these airports on a random day:
[KVS Availability Tool 7.5.2/Diamond - Availability/GA/US]
But no awards on that day.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.5.2/Diamond - Availability/GA/US]
Code:
AEP Buenos Aires Jorge Newbery BA AR [SABE] USH Ushuaia Malvinas Argentinas Intl TF AR [SAWH] THU 08 Jan 2015 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -------------------------------------------------- LA 4442 AEP 04:40 USH 08:25 320 0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 AR 1878 AEP 05:35 USH 09:10 738 0 W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K3 H3 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7 LA 4444 AEP 06:15 USH 10:00 320 0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 LA 4448 AEP 07:35 USH 11:20 320 0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 AR 1852 EZE 09:10 USH 12:45 343 0 W7 S7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7 AR 1858 AEP 11:55 USH 15:30 738 0 W0 S0 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G3 AR 1892 EZE 05:45 USH 11:00 738 1 W1 S1 Y1 B1 M1 U1 K1 H1 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G0 AR 1896 EZE 07:10 USH 12:15 738 1 W7 S2 Y7 B7 M2 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G1 AR 5 EZE 02:00 AEP 04:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> AR 1878 AEP 05:35 USH 09:10 738 0 W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K3 H3 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7 AR 5 EZE 02:00 AEP 04:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> LA 4444 AEP 06:15 USH 10:00 320 0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 AR 5 EZE 02:00 AEP 04:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> LA 4448 AEP 07:35 USH 11:20 320 0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 AR 7 EZE 04:00 AEP 06:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> LA 4448 AEP 07:35 USH 11:20 320 0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 AR 9 EZE 06:00 AEP 08:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> AR 1858 AEP 11:55 USH 15:30 738 0 W0 S0 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G3 AR 11 EZE 08:00 AEP 10:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> AR 1858 AEP 11:55 USH 15:30 738 0 W0 S0 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G3 AR 25 EZE 22:00 AEP 23:59 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> LA 4442 AEP 04:40 +1 USH 08:25 +1 320 0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 AR 3 EZE 23:59 AEP 02:00 +1 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> AR 1878 AEP 05:35 +1 USH 09:10 +1 738 0 W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7 AR 6 AEP 04:00 EZE 06:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> AR 1852 EZE 09:10 USH 12:45 343 0 W7 S7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7 AR 8 AEP 06:00 EZE 08:00 BUS 0 Y7 Q7 -> AR 1852 EZE 09:10 USH 12:45 343 0 W7 S7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7 AR 1892 EZE 05:45 FTE 09:05 738 0 W7 S6 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G6 -> AR 1828 FTE 13:55 USH 15:10 738 0 W3 S3 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L1 Q1 T1 E1 N0 V7 A7 R0 G7 AR 1864 AEP 05:20 REL 07:20 738 0 W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V7 A7 R7 G7 -> AR 1896 REL 10:00 USH 12:15 738 0 W7 S6 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R6 G7
Oct 27, 2014 | 10:08 am
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I have been looking at using my BA or AA points to do some travel in Argentina.
I just cannot find any award flights on LAN between Buenos Aires (AEP) and Ushuaia (USH).
Both BA and AA award search engines simply say OW does not fly there.
Has any online readers been able to use award miles on some of these out of the way places like to USH
or
is it the case that award destinations are restricted to the more popular routes and the rest are not accessible?
I just cannot find any award flights on LAN between Buenos Aires (AEP) and Ushuaia (USH).
Both BA and AA award search engines simply say OW does not fly there.
Has any online readers been able to use award miles on some of these out of the way places like to USH
or
is it the case that award destinations are restricted to the more popular routes and the rest are not accessible?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...-qf-rj-us.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2014-a.html
ba.com often has trouble displaying award availability on LA. See these threads for more info:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...os-2014-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ba-points.html
Nov 8, 2014 | 3:23 am
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Small airports in Chile and Argentina should be bookable with BA or AA miles, it's a software bug that doesn't allow to do it online. You may have success on the phone, but this depends on the abilities of the agent (and award availability, which may be none for partners and open for LAN's own members)
Nov 8, 2014 | 6:41 pm
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Small airports in Chile and Argentina should be bookable with BA or AA miles, it's a software bug that doesn't allow to do it online. You may have success on the phone, but this depends on the abilities of the agent (and award availability, which may be none for partners and open for LAN's own members)
Can you tell me if there are any suggestions to give to agents so they can manipulate the system to see the seats?
As an example, I have found that suggesting to Qantas agents to search for certain non popular sectors as part of a return booking helps actually find a seat one way.
Similarly , agents sometimes search for award seats using their own airlines codeshare on anothers metal. Not always applicable .This applies to Qantas eg the SYD-SCL-SYD sectors for awards on LAN are searched for under the QF codeshare whereas those AKL_SCL-AKL are found under the LAN flight numbers.
I would love to hear of any options you know of to get agents to see award seats to smaller cities and towns on LAN and TAM .
Nov 14, 2014 | 7:37 pm
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There is very little chance of LA award seats unless you are of a high tier LA FF. See the FT LAN Board for this depressing news. And with the discontinuation of the LA South American AirPass, you now have to pay serious money to get to USH. AEP-USH seems packed with gringos and they seem to want to fly on LA for some unknown reason. If you don't like that, then take the bus.
Nov 15, 2014 | 7:34 pm
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Do you want the bad news or the very bad news?
There is very little chance of LA award seats unless you are of a high tier LA FF. See the FT LAN Board for this depressing news. And with the discontinuation of the LA South American AirPass, you now have to pay serious money to get to USH. AEP-USH seems packed with gringos and they seem to want to fly on LA for some unknown reason. If you don't like that, then take the bus.
There is very little chance of LA award seats unless you are of a high tier LA FF. See the FT LAN Board for this depressing news. And with the discontinuation of the LA South American AirPass, you now have to pay serious money to get to USH. AEP-USH seems packed with gringos and they seem to want to fly on LA for some unknown reason. If you don't like that, then take the bus.
Are there any other airpasses that can be purchased that cover flying on LAN and I think TAM?
I have heard of one but cannot find any prices.
Nov 15, 2014 | 7:49 pm
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Yes. There is the Visit South America Pass
Most recent discussion I could find was last year - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ss-prices.html
Most recent discussion I could find was last year - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ss-prices.html
Nov 16, 2014 | 5:29 am
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Yes. There is the Visit South America Pass
Most recent discussion I could find was last year - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ss-prices.html
Most recent discussion I could find was last year - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ss-prices.html