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ozflier Oct 27, 2014 5:37 am
Do Oneworld awards cover all destinations?
 
I have been looking at using my BA or AA points to do some travel in Argentina.

I just cannot find any award flights on LAN between Buenos Aires (AEP) and Ushuaia (USH).

Both BA and AA award search engines simply say OW does not fly there.

Has any online readers been able to use award miles on some of these out of the way places like to USH
or
is it the case that award destinations are restricted to the more popular routes and the rest are not accessible?

millionmiler Oct 27, 2014 6:00 am
LAN (various airports) and TAM fly there although some of the flights are seasonal.

AA.com will not show either airline when you search for award flights.

Unterwegs Oct 27, 2014 8:45 am
Here are some flights between these airports on a random day:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.5.2/Diamond - Availability/GA/US]
Code:
AEP  Buenos Aires Jorge Newbery BA AR [SABE]
USH  Ushuaia Malvinas Argentinas Intl TF AR [SAWH]
THU  08 Jan 2015

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------
LA        4442    AEP  04:40    USH  08:25    320  0  Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0
AR        1878    AEP  05:35    USH  09:10    738  0  W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K3 H3 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7
LA        4444    AEP  06:15    USH  10:00    320  0  Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0
LA        4448    AEP  07:35    USH  11:20    320  0  Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0
AR        1852    EZE  09:10    USH  12:45    343  0  W7 S7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7
AR        1858    AEP  11:55    USH  15:30    738  0  W0 S0 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G3
AR        1892    EZE  05:45    USH  11:00    738  1  W1 S1 Y1 B1 M1 U1 K1 H1 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G0
AR        1896    EZE  07:10    USH  12:15    738  1  W7 S2 Y7 B7 M2 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G1
AR        5      EZE  02:00    AEP  04:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> AR    1878    AEP  05:35    USH  09:10    738  0  W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K3 H3 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7
AR        5      EZE  02:00    AEP  04:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> LA    4444    AEP  06:15    USH  10:00    320  0  Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0
AR        5      EZE  02:00    AEP  04:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> LA    4448    AEP  07:35    USH  11:20    320  0  Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0
AR        7      EZE  04:00    AEP  06:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> LA    4448    AEP  07:35    USH  11:20    320  0  Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0
AR        9      EZE  06:00    AEP  08:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> AR    1858    AEP  11:55    USH  15:30    738  0  W0 S0 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G3
AR        11      EZE  08:00    AEP  10:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> AR    1858    AEP  11:55    USH  15:30    738  0  W0 S0 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G3
AR        25      EZE  22:00    AEP  23:59    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> LA    4442    AEP  04:40 +1  USH  08:25 +1  320  0  Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0
AR        3      EZE  23:59    AEP  02:00 +1  BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> AR    1878    AEP  05:35 +1  USH  09:10 +1  738  0  W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7
AR        6      AEP  04:00    EZE  06:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> AR    1852    EZE  09:10    USH  12:45    343  0  W7 S7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7
AR        8      AEP  06:00    EZE  08:00    BUS  0  Y7 Q7
 -> AR    1852    EZE  09:10    USH  12:45    343  0  W7 S7 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G7
AR        1892    EZE  05:45    FTE  09:05    738  0  W7 S6 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R0 G6
 -> AR    1828    FTE  13:55    USH  15:10    738  0  W3 S3 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H7 L1 Q1 T1 E1 N0 V7 A7 R0 G7
AR        1864    AEP  05:20    REL  07:20    738  0  W7 S5 Y7 B7 M7 U7 K7 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V7 A7 R7 G7
 -> AR    1896    REL  10:00    USH  12:15    738  0  W7 S6 Y7 B7 M7 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 V0 A0 R6 G7
But no awards on that day.

jerry a. laska Oct 27, 2014 10:08 am
Originally Posted by ozflier (Post 23742068)
I have been looking at using my BA or AA points to do some travel in Argentina.

I just cannot find any award flights on LAN between Buenos Aires (AEP) and Ushuaia (USH).

Both BA and AA award search engines simply say OW does not fly there.

Has any online readers been able to use award miles on some of these out of the way places like to USH
or
is it the case that award destinations are restricted to the more popular routes and the rest are not accessible?
As noted above there either are not awards available or you are not searching correctly. For example, LAN and TAM are not available by online search on aa.com, you have to call.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...-qf-rj-us.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2014-a.html
ba.com often has trouble displaying award availability on LA. See these threads for more info:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...os-2014-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ba-points.html

neuromancer Nov 8, 2014 3:23 am
Small airports in Chile and Argentina should be bookable with BA or AA miles, it's a software bug that doesn't allow to do it online. You may have success on the phone, but this depends on the abilities of the agent (and award availability, which may be none for partners and open for LAN's own members)

ozflier Nov 8, 2014 6:41 pm
Originally Posted by neuromancer (Post 23810038)
Small airports in Chile and Argentina should be bookable with BA or AA miles, it's a software bug that doesn't allow to do it online. You may have success on the phone, but this depends on the abilities of the agent (and award availability, which may be none for partners and open for LAN's own members)
Thank you for that .

Can you tell me if there are any suggestions to give to agents so they can manipulate the system to see the seats?

As an example, I have found that suggesting to Qantas agents to search for certain non popular sectors as part of a return booking helps actually find a seat one way.

Similarly , agents sometimes search for award seats using their own airlines codeshare on anothers metal. Not always applicable .This applies to Qantas eg the SYD-SCL-SYD sectors for awards on LAN are searched for under the QF codeshare whereas those AKL_SCL-AKL are found under the LAN flight numbers.

I would love to hear of any options you know of to get agents to see award seats to smaller cities and towns on LAN and TAM .

og Nov 14, 2014 7:37 pm
Originally Posted by ozflier (Post 23812807)
....
I would love to hear of any options you know of to get agents to see award seats to smaller cities and towns on LAN and TAM .
Do you want the bad news or the very bad news?

There is very little chance of LA award seats unless you are of a high tier LA FF. See the FT LAN Board for this depressing news. And with the discontinuation of the LA South American AirPass, you now have to pay serious money to get to USH. AEP-USH seems packed with gringos and they seem to want to fly on LA for some unknown reason. If you don't like that, then take the bus. :eek:

ozflier Nov 15, 2014 7:34 pm
Originally Posted by og (Post 23844110)
Do you want the bad news or the very bad news?

There is very little chance of LA award seats unless you are of a high tier LA FF. See the FT LAN Board for this depressing news. And with the discontinuation of the LA South American AirPass, you now have to pay serious money to get to USH. AEP-USH seems packed with gringos and they seem to want to fly on LA for some unknown reason. If you don't like that, then take the bus. :eek:
Thanks for that.

Are there any other airpasses that can be purchased that cover flying on LAN and I think TAM?

I have heard of one but cannot find any prices.

pandaperth Nov 15, 2014 7:49 pm
Originally Posted by ozflier (Post 23848010)
Thanks for that.

Are there any other airpasses that can be purchased that cover flying on LAN and I think TAM?

I have heard of one but cannot find any prices.
Yes. There is the Visit South America Pass

Most recent discussion I could find was last year - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ss-prices.html

og Nov 16, 2014 5:29 am
Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23848064)
Yes. There is the Visit South America Pass

Most recent discussion I could find was last year - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ss-prices.html
Thanks for that PP. I was still crying over the loss of the LA South America Pass so I'll see how this stacks up in comparison.


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