Oneworld alliance really seems to be in trouble

American airlines-Bankrupt and is now third largest in the US

Qantas - seem to be committing suicide pulling out if so many routes including Auckland LA and London to Hong Kong and Bangkok,Jetstar seems to be taking over their many routes and people here in NZ are speculating that jetstar will take over Auckland to LA.Qantas is also not keen on adding new destination or expanding and seem to try their best to not work with Cathay but against them by not code sharing with them and suggesting a jetstar hong kong

Malaysia airlines , joining soon but its not doing well with Air asia and Singapore airlines competition , it still ahs not been able to make a profit and is just cutting routes like crazy especially to the middle east.

Air Berlin just got saved by etihad really and lufthansa have the edge in Germany

Royal Jordanian- really tiny and their fleet expansion land and route expansion are minuscule compared to their gigantic neighbours

Malev-well it does not operate anymore will most likely leave alliance

Mexicana- is dead is going to leave the alliance soon

Kingfisher- It is so sad that they are in such a horrible position they are India's best airline and entrance into oneworld would have helped them a lot and become a stronger airline also oneworld could have established itself and a brand in India

British Airways Iberia seem to be doing okay but not as great as expected .

Cathay is probably doing the best of the lot has strong growth and high profits, it may leave oneworld.

But the alliance really cannot just have one or two surviving or healthy airlines

Latam may go to star hope it stays with oneworld but with all the other members falling apart them may decide to move.

Jal yay!! the other good story now apart from Cathay they seem to be on track to return to their former glory .

China not one member due to Cathay block of Hainan, seems fair though If hainan wanted to enter oneworld, buying and establishing and airline to compete against and become the main airline in another one world airlines home market is really not a smart idea!! (hong kong airlines already hate them I really do not want to see cathay go kaput because of them, and because they are Chinese owned they do not have to pay EU carbon tax so its really quite unfair competition>

Compare this to star which has United and lufthansa to huge airlines along with airchina and so many other huge airlines

or even skyteam with delta and Airfrance, Korean air and China eastern and southern



So is there a future for oneworld?? I give it just a few years.

By the way oneworld is my favourite alliance but they do not seem to be managing their airlines well or attracting airlines with string balance sheets

By no metric are they the best airline in India, nor have they ever been close.

Kingfisher's loss last quarter of almost $100 million pretty much means that they can't afford to keep operating for much longer, forget about joining oneworld anytime soon.
Why LATAM Is Practically Guaranteed To Join OneWorld Alliance

I mean't they were the best in terms of service at least in the 2005 to 2008 period when we flew them.

In terms of managing their accounts they are pathetic but then so are all the Indian carriers

They are not bankrupt, they are in bankruptcy protection. They will emerge from Chapter 11 slightly smaller, right before they start getting their new short haul fleet of 460 aircraft and will be better placed to compete with UA and DL. Most of the reason they have gone from biggest to third is because UA ate CO and DL ate NW.

QF and CX not working well together isn't because QF doesn't want to, its CX being CX. It is annoying that JQ appears to be slowly replacing QF, they should be complimenting each other not have the cheaper one eat away at the other. Most of the problems QF has is because of the unions and Australian government. If a few people grew some brains, things should get a bit better. Although some of the actions of the current and previous CEOs have been a bit questionable, the delays to the 787 and A380 haven't helped. QF has added new destinations, DFW and SCL (though at the cost of SFO and EZE). Having JQ/3K join OW would be useful and QF should improve, provided they can survive the next few years.

All of India's airlines are having major problems. If the Indian Government doesn't step in and do something soon, most of India's airlines will die. Though the governments ownership of AI doesn't help here.

Why would CX leave OW?

Thanks to merger conditions placed on them by the local regulators, Lan and Tam's choices are to go with Oneworld or no one. One regulator said must go with Star or OW, the other said they can't be in the same alliance as Avianca (star).

Hainan's market is not the same as CXs. CX/KA does not operate mainland china domestic flights. HU does. CX doesn't want HU in oneworld because of their connection to HX. The other mainland carriers aren't an option. CX thinks that Chinese domestic pax should just connect through HKG.

Star Alliance and SkyTeam airlines are having just as many problems as OneWorld carriers.

Did you fly anybody else? Sure, they were good, but during that time period Indian Airlines and Jet Airways were better. That hasn't changed.

I think they are going to die! One world has had WAY to many problems!

I wrote about the qantas changes here:
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And on Feb 3rd I wrote about how these alliances are Jinxed! Both Star and One world but even more so One world!

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You forgot S7

If LATAM join Oneworld, which is most likely, that would be great for Oneworld, as they would have domination in a growing market.

[QUOTE=rockferd;18032248]I think they are going to die! One world has had WAY to many problems!

I wrote about the qantas changes here:
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And on Feb 3rd I wrote about how these alliances are Jinxed! Both Star and One world but even more so One world!

<redacted>I don't mean to be rude, but I wish I could get the 2 minutes I just spent reading that BS back...

To everyone else: don't waste your time reading it...

And Finnair, which the Finnish government is looking to sell and/or downsize.

hope Hainan would join one world since OW doesn't have domestic options within China.

[QUOTE=rockferd;18032248]I think they are going to die! One world has had WAY to many problems!

I wrote about the qantas changes here:
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And on Feb 3rd I wrote about how these alliances are Jinxed! Both Star and One world but even more so One world!

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That's right - both OW & *A and horrible and will die soon.
ST is the only good and viable alliance.
If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

LOL
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Warning, one or two insane ideas here afloat. readers be aware.

Yes, I suppose that it could. But is there any realistic possibility? Nah. You have any facts to back this one up?


Nonsense. Pure nonsense.