Is oneworld alliance going to die!!!
#32
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SQ/TG could block CX, or CX could figure why bother competing. I doubt CX is going anywhere.
Kingfisher, that was a serious Fu(*&^ck on whoever invited them. Any sort of due dilligance (or just reading flyertalk or airliners.net) would show they have some very serious financial issues. I think Jet would have been a much better choice, if not for the fact they seem to have a better network than IT.
MX, may she rest in peace, but not the biggest blow, same with MA.
AA and JL are on the track to getting their finances back in order.
QF I am a bit worried about, I think jetstar is taking over too much.
MH, great airline and it seems the Malaysian govt will dump money into them for a while.
Overall things at OW might not be perfect, but could be worse.
I will say though I wish we picked up China eastern. Yes their onboard product kind of sucks, but all chinese carriers are not much better.
Kingfisher, that was a serious Fu(*&^ck on whoever invited them. Any sort of due dilligance (or just reading flyertalk or airliners.net) would show they have some very serious financial issues. I think Jet would have been a much better choice, if not for the fact they seem to have a better network than IT.
MX, may she rest in peace, but not the biggest blow, same with MA.
AA and JL are on the track to getting their finances back in order.
QF I am a bit worried about, I think jetstar is taking over too much.
MH, great airline and it seems the Malaysian govt will dump money into them for a while.
Overall things at OW might not be perfect, but could be worse.
I will say though I wish we picked up China eastern. Yes their onboard product kind of sucks, but all chinese carriers are not much better.
#34
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AY is looking for a partner to reach 2 goals; radically lower costs for its euro traffic and to increase presence in the nordics. One could argue that it is a downsizing, as some planes and crews may have to leave the legacy carrier, but the intended result is an increase of total amount of traffic under AY (and partner) control.
Finnish government have said that if their holdings (currently ≈56%) is blocking such a deal, they are willing to discuss a reduction, but they are determined to stay a major shareholder for the foreseeable future.
Last edited by intuition; Feb 23, 2012 at 2:22 pm
#35
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MU and QF worked together long before MU joined ST.... It was more Chinese politics than airline decision.. Maybe MU want to be in the same alliance as CZ to compete with CA ad its subsidiaries...
#37
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Eh, not exactly...
AY is looking for a partner to reach 2 goals; radically lower costs for its euro traffic and to increase presence in the nordics. One could argue that it is a downsizing, as some planes and crews may have to leave the legacy carrier, but the intended result is an increase of total amount of traffic under AY (and partner) control.
AY is looking for a partner to reach 2 goals; radically lower costs for its euro traffic and to increase presence in the nordics. One could argue that it is a downsizing, as some planes and crews may have to leave the legacy carrier, but the intended result is an increase of total amount of traffic under AY (and partner) control.
#38
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#39
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It is my understanding that all CZ, MU, and CA are for the most part state owned, so you are not really competeing against each other. I would see it better from the chinese government to have one in each alliance to balance it out and give each airline their own following. Now Skyteam partners will be splitting feed between CZ and MU when they could just be sending it CZ.
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#42
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I really don't know which one it will join, but seeing its large stake in airberlin, it seems a bit towards the OW side, but things can change.
Last edited by razMJ; Feb 25, 2012 at 4:41 am Reason: Had entered bold incorrectly
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#44
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#45
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Can't see a budget airline being based in countries with such high labour/operating costs.






