Originally Posted by
Kachjc
Oneworld alliance really seems to be in trouble
American airlines-Bankrupt and is now third largest in the US
They are not bankrupt, they are in bankruptcy protection. They will emerge from Chapter 11 slightly smaller, right before they start getting their new short haul fleet of 460 aircraft and will be better placed to compete with UA and DL. Most of the reason they have gone from biggest to third is because UA ate CO and DL ate NW.
Qantas - seem to be committing suicide pulling out if so many routes including Auckland LA and London to Hong Kong and Bangkok,Jetstar seems to be taking over their many routes and people here in NZ are speculating that jetstar will take over Auckland to LA.Qantas is also not keen on adding new destination or expanding and seem to try their best to not work with Cathay but against them by not code sharing with them and suggesting a jetstar hong kong
QF and CX not working well together isn't because QF doesn't want to, its CX being CX. It is annoying that JQ appears to be slowly replacing QF, they should be complimenting each other not have the cheaper one eat away at the other. Most of the problems QF has is because of the unions and Australian government. If a few people grew some brains, things should get a bit better. Although some of the actions of the current and previous CEOs have been a bit questionable, the delays to the 787 and A380 haven't helped. QF has added new destinations, DFW and SCL (though at the cost of SFO and EZE). Having JQ/3K join OW would be useful and QF should improve, provided they can survive the next few years.
Kingfisher- It is so sad that they are in such a horrible position they are India's best airline and entrance into oneworld would have helped them a lot and become a stronger airline also oneworld could have established itself and a brand in India
All of India's airlines are having major problems. If the Indian Government doesn't step in and do something soon, most of India's airlines will die. Though the governments ownership of AI doesn't help here.
Cathay is probably doing the best of the lot has strong growth and high profits, it may leave oneworld.
Why would CX leave OW?
Latam may go to star hope it stays with oneworld but with all the other members falling apart them may decide to move.
Thanks to merger conditions placed on them by the local regulators, Lan and Tam's choices are to go with Oneworld or no one. One regulator said must go with Star or OW, the other said they can't be in the same alliance as Avianca (star).
China not one member due to Cathay block of Hainan, seems fair though If hainan wanted to enter oneworld, buying and establishing and airline to compete against and become the main airline in another one world airlines home market is really not a smart idea!!
Hainan's market is not the same as CXs. CX/KA does not operate mainland china domestic flights. HU does. CX doesn't want HU in oneworld because of their connection to HX. The other mainland carriers aren't an option. CX thinks that Chinese domestic pax should just connect through HKG.
Compare this to star which has United and lufthansa to huge airlines along with airchina and so many other huge airlines
or even skyteam with delta and Airfrance, Korean air and China eastern and southern
Star Alliance and SkyTeam airlines are having just as many problems as OneWorld carriers.