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JohnAx Nov 26, 2011 7:40 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 17516539)
Is there a dedicated number at AA with experienced staff who are well informed of all the rules and save me time in explaining that KRT is in the EuropeMiddleEast region not in Africa ?

Call AA reservations (or the number on your Aadvantage membership card) and ask to be transfered to the Around-the-World desk.

tauphi Nov 26, 2011 8:28 am


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 17517349)
Call AA reservations (or the number on your Aadvantage membership card) and ask to be transfered to the Around-the-World desk.

Note that it was the AA ATW desk that knocked me back from terminating my ex-KRT ticket in DXB.

pandaperth Nov 27, 2011 5:28 am


Originally Posted by tauphi (Post 17517509)
Note that it was the AA ATW desk that knocked me back from terminating my ex-KRT ticket in DXB.

I suspect the problem is that Sudan, while being in Europe/Middle East according to the ticket rules, it is NOT regarded by AA at least as being part of the Middle East.

onobond Dec 4, 2011 9:42 am

I've PM'd tauphi , who seem to have recent experience of starting a xONEx from KRT. Anyone else with the same information, please post or PM

NA-Flyer Dec 4, 2011 10:58 am


Originally Posted by onobond (Post 17564285)
I've PM'd tauphi , who seem to have recent experience of starting a xONEx from KRT. Anyone else with the same information, please post or PM

I am working now on getting one. Not yet finalized my plans. Very complicated and hard to manage especially when making a booking using the online tool.

The funny thing is that the online system have quoted me different prices for the same itinerary :D

tauphi Dec 5, 2011 4:32 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 17564648)
The funny thing is that the online system have quoted me different prices for the same itinerary :D

FWIW I booked two tickets out of KRT, one with the online tool while I was in Canada and one with AA by phone. The itineraries were almost the same and the ticket by phone priced in CAD turned out to be $1000 cheaper than the one booked online which was priced in USD, YMMV. It would appear that they were using different exchange rates for SDG.

george 3 Dec 21, 2011 6:51 pm

After reading this thread out of curiousity, other than providing food aid, doing something diplomatic or visiting relatives, why would anyone want to visit this airport?? Particularly the comments on Sleepinthe airport. Wow! Forget about third world, this sounds like sixth world ! The airport sounds like the airport and nation that Christopher Walken went through in the movie Dogs of War.

justin1123 Jan 3, 2012 4:08 am

Can anyone confirm if they have found a way to buy an ex-KRT xONEx recently?
I will visit Sudan as a tourist in the coming weeks and would like to start a DONE4 when there.

Has the online tool worked for this (not in Canada), or has anyone found an agent in Sudan or elsewhere that can book for the right price?

Also, what is the pricing rule when you start/finish the ticket in different ME countries? I know Sudan will be accepted as a ME location for this, but when I price online it changes the base fare dramatically if ending elsewhere, and can only get the proper Sudan fare if starting and ending in KRT in seems. Is this right, or could this be re-routed later for the same base fare?

jerry a. laska Jan 3, 2012 11:33 am


Originally Posted by justin1123 (Post 17736424)
Can anyone confirm if they have found a way to buy an ex-KRT xONEx recently?
I will visit Sudan as a tourist in the coming weeks and would like to start a DONE4 when there.

Has the online tool worked for this (not in Canada), or has anyone found an agent in Sudan or elsewhere that can book for the right price?

Also, what is the pricing rule when you start/finish the ticket in different ME countries? I know Sudan will be accepted as a ME location for this, but when I price online it changes the base fare dramatically if ending elsewhere, and can only get the proper Sudan fare if starting and ending in KRT in seems. Is this right, or could this be re-routed later for the same base fare?

tauphi is the only person that has reported purchasing an ex-KRT xonex. It appears he issued both using the Canada exception. He was also unsuccessful ending somewhere else in the ME when issuing the ticket. You might PM him to see if he has been able to reissue his ticket and end elsewhere.

As for issuing in KRT, RJ has an office there:
http://www.rj.com/en/rj_offices.html
Also this link seems to suggest that CX has (or had) a gsa there:
http://www.travelindex.com/Detailed/...GSA_78919.html

NA-Flyer Jan 4, 2012 10:41 am


Originally Posted by justin1123 (Post 17736424)
Also, what is the pricing rule when you start/finish the ticket in different ME countries?

That can be done and online tool does accept it easily: start your journey in Khartoum and end it in DXB or MCT or AUH

jerry a. laska Jan 4, 2012 11:32 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 17745929)
That can be done and online tool does accept it easily: start your journey in Khartoum and end it in DXB or MCT or AUH

So were you able to actually issue an xonex using the tool with this routing?
As tauphi related in this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17460100-post99.html
the tool would accept a ME end but the tool would fail when he tried to issue a ticket.

tauphi Jan 5, 2012 3:22 am


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 17746357)
So were you able to actually issue an xonex using the tool with this routing?
As tauphi related in this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17460100-post99.html
the tool would accept a ME end but the tool would fail when he tried to issue a ticket.

I don't think the failure was necessarily related to ending the itinerary outside of Sudan, since the same itinerary that I bought successfully using the online tool while in Canada failed when I tried repeating it after leaving Canada.

3544quebec Jan 7, 2012 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 17745929)
That can be done and online tool does accept it easily: start your journey in Khartoum and end it in DXB or MCT or AUH

If I price out an AONE5 KRT-AMM-......AMM-KRT online I get a price of $US8923 + $1385 taxes. The base price corresponds to the price given on EF. If I price the same ex-KRT itinerary but drop the last segment and end in AMM it tells me it is a vald itinerary but I get quoted $US13531 + $1623 taxes. The $US13531 doesn't correspond to the base price in any country on the itinerary.

justin1123 Jan 9, 2012 11:41 am

Thanks for responses on this. As others have reported, I also cannot get the tool to issue this. I will try and set up with the RTW desk and ticket in Canada - will report if that works!

I have seen the same as 3544quebec reports with different fares for different ME end points. My reading of the rules is that it should depend on country of origination/sale - I can't see anything specific for the cases where you can end in different countries. Does anyone with more detailed knowledge of the rules know what this should be? I may try to issue with start and end in KRT, then change after, but would not want the fare to be increased!

jerry a. laska Jan 9, 2012 11:59 am


Originally Posted by justin1123 (Post 17779348)
Thanks for responses on this. As others have reported, I also cannot get the tool to issue this. I will try and set up with the RTW desk and ticket in Canada - will report if that works!

I have seen the same as 3544quebec reports with different fares for different ME end points. My reading of the rules is that it should depend on country of origination/sale - I can't see anything specific for the cases where you can end in different countries. Does anyone with more detailed knowledge of the rules know what this should be? I may try to issue with start and end in KRT, then change after, but would not want the fare to be increased!

If you are going to be in KRT, why not try to contact CX and see if they still have a KRT gsa and, if so, have the CX KRT gsa issue for you?


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