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anabolism Mar 15, 2012 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 17517349)
Call AA reservations (or the number on your Aadvantage membership card) and ask to be transfered to the Around-the-World desk.

You can contact the AA Around the World desk directly at (800) 247-3247. (If you're outside the U.S., Skype calls are free to 1-800 numbers, or you can try what I believe (but am not sure) is their regular number: (817) 267-1151.)

anabolism Mar 15, 2012 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 18159297)
Don't forget that arriving from and then immediately departing to the same destination is not TWOV. The cities must be different for a transit.

Would it work to go, say, AMM-KRT-AMM-LHR? True, the outbound is to the same country as the inbound was from, but only as a connection. (I've no experience at TWOV.)

Dr. HFH Mar 16, 2012 9:28 am


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 18210413)
Would it work to go, say, AMM-KRT-AMM-LHR? True, the outbound is to the same country as the inbound was from, but only as a connection. (I've no experience at TWOV.)

I don't think so. Although you may have a through ticket connecting at AMM, from KRT's perspective you're arriving from and departing to hte same city on the same aircraft.

jerry a. laska Mar 16, 2012 9:39 am


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 18210413)
Would it work to go, say, AMM-KRT-AMM-LHR? True, the outbound is to the same country as the inbound was from, but only as a connection. (I've no experience at TWOV.)

Read the earlier discussion in this thread about TWOV, including that you must be transitting from one country through KRT to another country.

For example, read about tauphi's TWOV from another country to another country:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17446023-post91.html
And this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16582185-post31.html
And this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16577242-post28.html
And further discussion.

deepbluesky Mar 18, 2012 2:30 am

Finally doing this
 
After a few failed attempts coordinating a visa, I hope to finally begin an AONE4 starting in KRT next week. I'll be staying in Khartoum for a few days beforehand and I *think* I've found a reliable contact who has arranged the visa process in a surprisingly efficient manner.

If anyone still needs help, let me know. I can also share the contact details for the agency that has been working on my entry permit, but let's first make sure all goes well next week.

Assuming it does, I'll be flying KRT-AMM-DXB-LHR and onward. I'll get to KRT from DXB on a cheap FlyDubai ticket.

jerry a. laska Mar 18, 2012 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by deepbluesky (Post 18222246)
After a few failed attempts coordinating a visa, I hope to finally begin an AONE4 starting in KRT next week. I'll be staying in Khartoum for a few days beforehand and I *think* I've found a reliable contact who has arranged the visa process in a surprisingly efficient manner.

If anyone still needs help, let me know. I can also share the contact details for the agency that has been working on my entry permit, but let's first make sure all goes well next week.

Assuming it does, I'll be flying KRT-AMM-DXB-LHR and onward. I'll get to KRT from DXB on a cheap FlyDubai ticket.

Great! Will be waiting for your report.

onobond Mar 18, 2012 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by deepbluesky (Post 18222246)
After a few failed attempts coordinating a visa, I hope to finally begin an AONE4 starting in KRT next week. I'll be staying in Khartoum for a few days beforehand and I *think* I've found a reliable contact who has arranged the visa process in a surprisingly efficient manner.

If anyone still needs help, let me know. I can also share the contact details for the agency that has been working on my entry permit, but let's first make sure all goes well next week.

Assuming it does, I'll be flying KRT-AMM-DXB-LHR and onward. I'll get to KRT from DXB on a cheap FlyDubai ticket.

As I'm still standing on entry point, I also look forward to hear your experiences

NA-Flyer Apr 4, 2012 7:47 am

BA to fly from Khartoum
 
As a result of IAG buying of BD, BA announced codesharing on BD flight to many BD destinations including ADD.

As a result, I strongly believe that later on BA will also add Khartoum to the list of flights code shared with BD enabling us to issue tickets RTW AONE4 ex-Khartoum with BA flight number using BA booking engine ^^

JohnAx Apr 4, 2012 9:06 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 18332720)
As a result of IAG buying of BD, BA announced codesharing on BD flight to many BD destinations including ADD.

As a result, I strongly believe that later on BA will also add Khartoum to the list of flights code shared with BD enabling us to issue tickets RTW AONE4 ex-Khartoum with BA flight number using BA booking engine ^^

I liked the original version better.:rolleyes:

deepbluesky Apr 4, 2012 10:23 pm

Update: made it safe and sound with no problems at all.

The trick is to arrange an "airport entry permit" -- in advance -- instead of a visa. This then allows you to get a visa on arrival, regardless of nationality, and with only a short wait when you get there.

I had applied for the visa several times with no success, waiting weeks without word, but the airport entry permit took just 3 business days.

I worked with the guy from this agency -->

http://www.lenditravel.com

And I stayed at the German Guesthouse, a nice place that I would also recommend -->

http://www.germanguesthouse.com/vn/hotelbooking.aspx

(I have no relationship with either of these groups, aside from being a paying customer. As always, YMMV.)

Khartoum itself was fun. I did a city tour, went to the national museum and a couple of mosques, visited the markets, etc. I actually wished I was there a day or two extra, which is unusual for me.

I came in on FlyDubai (easy and cheap) and left two days later to begin the AONE4 on the only RJ flight of the day. I was connecting back to DXB and had a long (6 hr+ layover) in AMM. If you ask for it, J class pax get a free voucher for a day room and meal at the Golden Tulip -- but it seems you have to know to ask, because this information wasn't volunteered.

Anyway, it took a while to make it happen, but I'm glad it worked out. If anyone has any questions, I'm happy to help if I can.

DownUnderFlyer Apr 5, 2012 8:04 am


Originally Posted by NA-Flyer (Post 18332720)
As a result of IAG buying of BD, BA announced codesharing on BD flight to many BD destinations including ADD.

As a result, I strongly believe that later on BA will also add Khartoum to the list of flights code shared with BD enabling us to issue tickets RTW AONE4 ex-Khartoum with BA flight number using BA booking engine ^^

As long as the flight is not operated by a OW member you can't book it using OW Explorer. So for this to happen BA would need to keep this route going after the BD acquisition and operate this as BA. Or for BD to become a OW member. Just putting a code on a subsidiary won't be enough.

JohnAx Apr 5, 2012 8:33 am


Originally Posted by deepbluesky (Post 18338030)
...snip...
The trick is to arrange an "airport entry permit" -- in advance -- instead of a visa. This then allows you to get a visa on arrival, regardless of nationality, and with only a short wait when you get there.
...
I came in on FlyDubai (easy and cheap) ...

It's interesting that the FlyDubai people were wise enough to recognize 'airport entry permit' as a document that guarantees entry into the destination country so they're not on the hook for your repatriation. (especially since you still had to get a visa, and a third-world official probably could have said 'no way!' if he happened to feel unappreciated and underpaid (wink-wink) that day.)

Unterwegs Apr 5, 2012 11:08 am

deepbluesky,

congratulations. KRT is still on my list - and looks like I will try later this year.
How did you buy the ticket? Did you take stacks of cash to KRT or did you dinf a better way?

Also how did you get around the rule of the RTW with the number of entries to Europe? I believe KRT is Africa and AMM in Erupe (not really, but for this ticket. You would need to enter Europe twice - and Sudan is not on the list of exceptions.

Unterwegs Apr 5, 2012 11:13 am

I can answer part of my own question. Sudan is actually in Europe according to the oneworld website.

jerry a. laska Apr 5, 2012 11:14 am


Originally Posted by Unterwegs (Post 18340955)
deepbluesky,

congratulations. KRT is still on my list - and looks like I will try later this year.
How did you buy the ticket? Did you take stacks of cash to KRT or did you dinf a better way?

Also how did you get around the rule of the RTW with the number of entries to Europe? I believe KRT is Africa and AMM in Erupe (not really, but for this ticket. You would need to enter Europe twice - and Sudan is not on the list of exceptions.

It works like Egypt.
From the rules:

The fare to be charged is determined by the number of geographic continents in the itinerary including the continent of origin. Continents are defined as:
*Europe-Middle East (Including Algeria, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Libya, Morocco Russia both east and west of the Urals, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan )


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