"Sky Miles... will be the surviving program"
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"Sky Miles... will be the surviving program"
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...ES07/805010367
Frequent flier program: The Delta Sky Miles frequent flier program "in all likelihood" will be the surviving program, Anderson said, although details are not worked out. Northwest's WorldPerks miles would transfer to the new program.
Time to burn. If CO stays in ST, seriously considering going to CO. If not... later, y'all...
Steve B.
Frequent flier program: The Delta Sky Miles frequent flier program "in all likelihood" will be the surviving program, Anderson said, although details are not worked out. Northwest's WorldPerks miles would transfer to the new program.
Time to burn. If CO stays in ST, seriously considering going to CO. If not... later, y'all...

Steve B.
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- Upgrades are notoriously hard to snag.
- Redemptions are notoriously difficult; I almost always have to take a partner for at least some legs. Plat does not seem to help much, if at all.
- The 50% EQM thing means that you are stuck flying CO (=31" pitch and hard seats) or paying a premium. A large number of business travelers are flat-out shafted, as even CO tickets booked through TAs get the 50% treatment.
- Lack of flexibility during irregular ops is widely acknowledged, even by some ardent supporters.
- An EWR hub that is worse than ATL, with employees widely seen as surly and unhelpful.
- No PMUs of any kind.
- No MM program, though one is supposedly coming.
- No plans to upgrade their J product until, at least 2010, when the first 787 comes.
- TATL 752s are no fun.
- Phone agents are often woefully uninformed. Booking reward tickets can be a nightmare, unless you really know your stuff.
So, unless you really love airline food, or really like the idea of VS or EK redemptions, then I'm not sure that CO is all that.
If you travel in paid premium classes, though, I would agree that CO is great for domestic F, but as long as they are in ST, I'm not sure it makes much difference which program you accrue in.
Of course, many of the points above apply to DL, but many don't, so I think DL wins on the whole.
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Frequent flier program: The Delta Sky Miles frequent flier program "in all likelihood" will be the surviving program, Anderson said, although details are not worked out. Northwest's WorldPerks miles would transfer to the new program.
Time to burn. If CO stays in ST, seriously considering going to CO. If not... later, y'all...
Steve B.
Frequent flier program: The Delta Sky Miles frequent flier program "in all likelihood" will be the surviving program, Anderson said, although details are not worked out. Northwest's WorldPerks miles would transfer to the new program.
Time to burn. If CO stays in ST, seriously considering going to CO. If not... later, y'all...

Steve B.
Originally Posted by Steenland
Steenland to customers about the planned merger with Delta Air Lines: "It's going to be business as usual or better."
Originally Posted by Anderson
The Delta Sky Miles frequent flier program "in all likelihood" will be the surviving program, Anderson said ...
Originally Posted by Steenland
The main point, Steenland said, is that "everybody's miles are good.
Originally Posted by Both Bozos
The CEOs vowed service would get better with the merger, even though the airline will be bigger.
I am underwhelmed by this reassurance.
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Thanks to the OP for posting a link to Anderson's public statements on this, but people really can't be surprised at the name: if they're keeping the DL brand, of course they're keeping SkyMiles.
As for blowing through all one's NW miles, you're inferring that DL will keep all the rules & features that make you dislike SkyMiles vis-a-vis WorldPerks. Given persistent, industry-wide devaluations of miles and of the flying experience in general, it's tough to make a case for hoarding miles in any program. If there's some place you want to go, go: just be sure to maintain enough paid travel to sustain elite status if you perceive an ongoing value.
As for blowing through all one's NW miles, you're inferring that DL will keep all the rules & features that make you dislike SkyMiles vis-a-vis WorldPerks. Given persistent, industry-wide devaluations of miles and of the flying experience in general, it's tough to make a case for hoarding miles in any program. If there's some place you want to go, go: just be sure to maintain enough paid travel to sustain elite status if you perceive an ongoing value.
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Thanks to the OP for posting a link to Anderson's public statements on this, but people really can't be surprised at the name: if they're keeping the DL brand, of course they're keeping SkyMiles.
As for blowing through all one's NW miles, you're inferring that DL will keep all the rules & features that make you dislike SkyMiles vis-a-vis WorldPerks. Given persistent, industry-wide devaluations of miles and of the flying experience in general, it's tough to make a case for hoarding miles in any program. If there's some place you want to go, go: just be sure to maintain enough paid travel to sustain elite status if you perceive an ongoing value.
As for blowing through all one's NW miles, you're inferring that DL will keep all the rules & features that make you dislike SkyMiles vis-a-vis WorldPerks. Given persistent, industry-wide devaluations of miles and of the flying experience in general, it's tough to make a case for hoarding miles in any program. If there's some place you want to go, go: just be sure to maintain enough paid travel to sustain elite status if you perceive an ongoing value.
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It could be worse - DL could offer 2 WP miles for 1 Skymile
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As for going downhill at a faster rate... I think they will all be at the Euro level within a year or two, so I am not going to sweat over whether DL gets there 6 months ahead of everyone else.
The one strategy I do advocate, however, is to use up the status matches now. There is no guarantee that status will amount to a hill of beans in a devalued world, so might as well get in while the getting is good (or at least decent) and not worry about whether the matches are "once-in-a-lifetime".
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...ES07/805010367
Frequent flier program: The Delta Sky Miles frequent flier program "in all likelihood" will be the surviving program, Anderson said, although details are not worked out. Northwest's WorldPerks miles would transfer to the new program.
Time to burn. If CO stays in ST, seriously considering going to CO. If not... later, y'all...
Steve B.
Frequent flier program: The Delta Sky Miles frequent flier program "in all likelihood" will be the surviving program, Anderson said, although details are not worked out. Northwest's WorldPerks miles would transfer to the new program.
Time to burn. If CO stays in ST, seriously considering going to CO. If not... later, y'all...

Steve B.
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I may have missed something in reading through the posts/links, however its not clear if Anderson et. all are saying they will keep the Skymiles brand and name along with the actual program rules/content, or, wishfull thinking, take a best of both WP and SM and apply the Skymiles branding to it.
Here's to hoping that its only a branding name retention and that the combined or new program is an enhanced program.
-H
Here's to hoping that its only a branding name retention and that the combined or new program is an enhanced program.
-H
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The much more realistic rationale is that DL is seeking to increase bookings during a period of softening demand. It is a marketing gambit, pure and simple. And it has the added benefit of not really costing DL that much, as many of the perks of being elite have fixed costs.
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So we go to Skymiles but do we get to keep our WP # or do I have to learn a new FF#??
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I still remember my SM number from my old, old PM days.
I've always had the burn em up attitude towards miles.
Actually, this year I found myself wanting to use miles and, gasp, I didn't have enough, even though I've earned over 1M WP miles in the past 2.5 years. Of course, I just calculated how long it would take me to earn those miles and waited to book till I actually had them.
I've always had the burn em up attitude towards miles.
Actually, this year I found myself wanting to use miles and, gasp, I didn't have enough, even though I've earned over 1M WP miles in the past 2.5 years. Of course, I just calculated how long it would take me to earn those miles and waited to book till I actually had them.


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