NEWS: The Overall Northwest To File Chpt 11 Thread
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Originally Posted by bk42
Wait, since when was Northwest number five in the nation? I knew they went to #5 in the world after the AF-KLM hook-up, but not in the nation.
Anyways, yeah, it'll probably be in chp 11 in a couple of days.
I saw something interesting during all the mechanics hoopla, that NW wanted only 1,200 or so mechanics left. 300 were to be based in Duluth, and the remaining 900 were to be split between Minneapolis and Detroit. Notice something missing? Yeah, they didn't say they'd leave anyone in Memphis. You think they're going to cut Memphis in chp 11?
Anyways, yeah, it'll probably be in chp 11 in a couple of days.
I saw something interesting during all the mechanics hoopla, that NW wanted only 1,200 or so mechanics left. 300 were to be based in Duluth, and the remaining 900 were to be split between Minneapolis and Detroit. Notice something missing? Yeah, they didn't say they'd leave anyone in Memphis. You think they're going to cut Memphis in chp 11?
I think at all the satelite sites NW has hired other airlines or other third party vendors to do their work. Even though DL de-hubbed DFW they still have a presence and they share the terminal with NW, I have heard that NW hired DL to do the MX on its planes at DFW.
#77
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Status of an ECV in chp 11
I have an ECV worth just over $200, and I'm begining to wonder if I should use it before a chp 11 filing.....like right now.
I'm don't know much about chp 11, but I always hear that the creditors take a hit. With an ECV, am I a creditor of NW, and does that place the value of my ECV at risk?
I'm don't know much about chp 11, but I always hear that the creditors take a hit. With an ECV, am I a creditor of NW, and does that place the value of my ECV at risk?
#78
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Originally Posted by bk42
Wait, since when was Northwest number five in the nation? I knew they went to #5 in the world after the AF-KLM hook-up, but not in the nation.
By revenue, NW is #4 in US-based carriers, and 5th or 6th in the world: certainly behind AA, UA, DL and AF-KLM, and possibly behind BA or LH (not sure at all!).
By passengers flown, #5 in US as I believe Southwest moved more passengers within the US than NW did.
It is also possible to count by passenger-mile, number of pilots etc.
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Ooooo, maybe Southwest or Jet Blue will buy them out.
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Originally Posted by Donna49
I have an ECV worth just over $200, and I'm begining to wonder if I should use it before a chp 11 filing.....like right now.
I'm don't know much about chp 11, but I always hear that the creditors take a hit. With an ECV, am I a creditor of NW, and does that place the value of my ECV at risk?
I'm don't know much about chp 11, but I always hear that the creditors take a hit. With an ECV, am I a creditor of NW, and does that place the value of my ECV at risk?
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I think NW has seen, and learned from, the approach US and UA have taken in BR. That doesn't mean that they go in with risks of never coming out. With fuel at current levels and unlikely to return to anywhere near what their business model is based on, going inot BR will allow them to speed up the changes they need to make to decrease costs. Will we lose some routes and see frequency changes, probably. There certainly aren't many more service cuts to be made....
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Originally Posted by travelerjim
CloudsBelow...Had you been watching the large chunks of NWAC stock..in the millions of shares - being sold for the past 12 months by the NW Chairman, CEO, Officers and Board Members ...one would guesstimate that they were most interested in saving some of the value for themselves and leave the employees holding the bag so to speak...as well as abandoning the shareholders - for the shareholders will have zilch value when NWAC comes out of bk.
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The partys over NW is bankrupt
NW will be bankrupt today after market closes. I feel sorry for the nuts that bought stock today.
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Check out the following post (go to post #3)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471756
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471756
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My Oh My - it was just a few weeks ago that some were touting NW stock as the next Microsoft. It's actually a good lesson. Never listen to investment advice given on bbs, be it this one or yahoo.
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#87
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Originally Posted by missterious9
if they file BK
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Originally Posted by yogimax
My Oh My - it was just a few weeks that some were touting NW stock as the next Microsoft. It's actually a good lesson. Never listen to investment advice given on bbs, be it this one or yahoo.
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Originally Posted by rwill11
NW will be bankrupt today after market closes.
Originally Posted by rwill11
I feel sorry for the nuts that bought stock today.
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Originally Posted by wldtrvlr
No I don't think they will cut Memphis. The article is talking about Mechanics that are EMPLOYED directly by NW. NW will still have mechancis at other airports, but they will be employed by third party vendors, such as Swissair, or other airlines. I imagine since FedEx's Headquarters is at the MEM airport NW has either contracted FEDEX, or Mesaba or Pinnacle to do the Maintance on the few mainline planes that still fly there. Airlink companies have their own mechanics and NW's approach at MEM is to use the two Airlink companies as much as possible.
I think at all the satelite sites NW has hired other airlines or other third party vendors to do their work. Even though DL de-hubbed DFW they still have a presence and they share the terminal with NW, I have heard that NW hired DL to do the MX on its planes at DFW.
I think at all the satelite sites NW has hired other airlines or other third party vendors to do their work. Even though DL de-hubbed DFW they still have a presence and they share the terminal with NW, I have heard that NW hired DL to do the MX on its planes at DFW.