Changes to Worldperks program 2005
#136




Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SEA
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At Continental's website, there is a small statement which I thought was interesting immediately after the listing of restricted blackout dates on award travel......
Perhaps they are making improvement to its Onepass program, by getting rid of blackout dates, but I think otherwise. I'm thinking there might be award level alignment, similar to NW brewing at CO..... I guess I won't know until January 1.
Jiburi
Restricted travel dates will not apply to reward travel requests made January 1, 2005 and beyond.
Jiburi
#137
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Originally Posted by jiburi
At Continental's website, there is a small statement which I thought was interesting immediately after the listing of restricted blackout dates on award travel......
Perhaps they are making improvement to its Onepass program, by getting rid of blackout dates, but I think otherwise. I'm thinking there might be award level alignment, similar to NW brewing at CO..... I guess I won't know until January 1.
Jiburi
Perhaps they are making improvement to its Onepass program, by getting rid of blackout dates, but I think otherwise. I'm thinking there might be award level alignment, similar to NW brewing at CO..... I guess I won't know until January 1.
Jiburi
#138
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New York, NY (JFK, LGA)
Programs: KLM, Delta, AA
Posts: 48
Is there any news if the changes in the 2005 NWA program will also be effective for KLM? If so, I better switch back (I'm a dual Dutch-American citizen
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#139
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jupiter, FL, USA;
Programs: Former Delta MM/PM, NW PM/3MM, Hilton Diamond, Hertz 5Star, Leaders Club, Starwood Gold
Posts: 35
I used to shudder whenever Delta sent out its "changes" each year! Man, am I ever glad that I switched back to NW!!! I'm only 17,000 miles away from my 2MM-er level. Status Quo is GREAT!
Originally Posted by u2andpj
Here's the interesting part:
All paid fare classes eligible to earn WorldPerks miles on Northwest or any of our Elite Qualifying Airline Partners (Continental Airlines flights in Q, I, S, W, T, X, L classes; Delta Air Lines operated flights are excluded) to count towards your Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS) for the 2006 program year! Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) required to achieve Elite status will remain the same as in 2004.
2005 changes
award travel changes
All paid fare classes eligible to earn WorldPerks miles on Northwest or any of our Elite Qualifying Airline Partners (Continental Airlines flights in Q, I, S, W, T, X, L classes; Delta Air Lines operated flights are excluded) to count towards your Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS) for the 2006 program year! Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) required to achieve Elite status will remain the same as in 2004.
2005 changes
award travel changes
#140


Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,245
Any changes for travel from North to South asia on MH ?
I can't find any changes in the biz class award level for travel from North to South Asia from the current 30K level ? I'm thinking of travelling on MH sometime in 2006. Thanks !
#141


Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,245
Originally Posted by sunil
I can't find any changes in the biz class award level for travel from North to South Asia from the current 30K level ? I'm thinking of travelling on MH sometime in 2006. Thanks !
#142
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New York, NY (JFK, LGA)
Programs: KLM, Delta, AA
Posts: 48
I have sent the following message to NWA thru https://www.nwa.com/talk/ttu.html, I encourage everyone to express their disappointment with this new program to NWA.
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Dear NWA,
As a frequent NWA flyer and a NWA Silver Elite member for a few years, I would like to express my disappointment and disbelieve about the WorldPerks 2005 revisions which can be found at http://www.nwa.com/features/awdchgs. My primary reason for flying NWA and its Skyteam partners is to collect miles for award travel to Europe. This used to be 50.000 miles but is 80.000 miles under the new program, an increase of 30.000 miles (60%!). This is not getting compensated in any way by the new all paid fare classes are eligible to earn WorldPerks miles update.
I will certainly consider my airline options next year, including the use of my WorldPerks Visa Credit Card if NWA actually implements this new program.
Thanks,
Mark Haanraadts
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Dear NWA,
As a frequent NWA flyer and a NWA Silver Elite member for a few years, I would like to express my disappointment and disbelieve about the WorldPerks 2005 revisions which can be found at http://www.nwa.com/features/awdchgs. My primary reason for flying NWA and its Skyteam partners is to collect miles for award travel to Europe. This used to be 50.000 miles but is 80.000 miles under the new program, an increase of 30.000 miles (60%!). This is not getting compensated in any way by the new all paid fare classes are eligible to earn WorldPerks miles update.
I will certainly consider my airline options next year, including the use of my WorldPerks Visa Credit Card if NWA actually implements this new program.
Thanks,
Mark Haanraadts
#143




Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SEA
Programs: DL 1.7MM,AS 1MM
Posts: 4,601
Qantas And United
It's likely that United will be revising award charts, as oneworld QANTAS just announced award level changes.
based from tinkybelle posting,
bus award SYD-HNL is now 160k but will be 144K
bus award SYD-LAX up from 160K to 192K.
bus award SYD-sin up from 100K to 120K
first award SYD-JFK up from 200K to 384K
Upgrade policy are also changing with cheap fares no longer qualifying for upgrades.
Jiburi
based from tinkybelle posting,
bus award SYD-HNL is now 160k but will be 144K
bus award SYD-LAX up from 160K to 192K.
bus award SYD-sin up from 100K to 120K
first award SYD-JFK up from 200K to 384K
Upgrade policy are also changing with cheap fares no longer qualifying for upgrades.
Jiburi
#144
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,319
Originally Posted by jiburi
It's likely that United will be revising award charts, as oneworld QANTAS just announced award level changes.
based from tinkybelle posting,
bus award SYD-HNL is now 160k but will be 144K
bus award SYD-LAX up from 160K to 192K.
bus award SYD-sin up from 100K to 120K
first award SYD-JFK up from 200K to 384K
Upgrade policy are also changing with cheap fares no longer qualifying for upgrades.
Jiburi
based from tinkybelle posting,
bus award SYD-HNL is now 160k but will be 144K
bus award SYD-LAX up from 160K to 192K.
bus award SYD-sin up from 100K to 120K
first award SYD-JFK up from 200K to 384K
Upgrade policy are also changing with cheap fares no longer qualifying for upgrades.
Jiburi
however, i've decided to put a considerable chunk of my transpacs on ua because, as of now, mp kicks butt and E+ is a pretty good product. if i fly nw, i think i'll just credit to hp.
#145
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: FNT, Michigan
Programs: DL DM (PMNW), occasional AMTK, National Exec Elite and IHG Spire
Posts: 751
I hear a lot of rumbling about mileage devaluation, but what really burns me is the new EQS policy for 2005. To explain why, here are my stats:
2003: 62K EQM, 62 EQS = PE
2004: 62K EQM, 46 EQS = GE
Funny thing is, under the new all fare class EQS rules for next year (2005), I would have re-qualified for PE this year as I flew over 100 total segments. However, since NWA decided to go head-to-head with Indy Air in my market this fall, all my formerly cherished B-fares disappeared from the lowest-available category and I ended up flying on cheap K and M fares for the past few months. Yeah, fly just as much as last year and drop a level anyway. I'm certainly not laughing now.
Any chance NWA would consider extending my PE status next year under the new 2005 WP rules?
(I didn't think so.
I guess I'll have to live with GE status for most of next year until I re-qual PE by reaching 100 total seqments again.)
2003: 62K EQM, 62 EQS = PE
2004: 62K EQM, 46 EQS = GE
Funny thing is, under the new all fare class EQS rules for next year (2005), I would have re-qualified for PE this year as I flew over 100 total segments. However, since NWA decided to go head-to-head with Indy Air in my market this fall, all my formerly cherished B-fares disappeared from the lowest-available category and I ended up flying on cheap K and M fares for the past few months. Yeah, fly just as much as last year and drop a level anyway. I'm certainly not laughing now.
Any chance NWA would consider extending my PE status next year under the new 2005 WP rules?
(I didn't think so.
I guess I'll have to live with GE status for most of next year until I re-qual PE by reaching 100 total seqments again.)
#146

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: san jose, CA
Posts: 2,998
Originally Posted by dmitzel
I hear a lot of rumbling about mileage devaluation, but what really burns me is the new EQS policy for 2005. To explain why, here are my stats:
2003: 62K EQM, 62 EQS = PE
2004: 62K EQM, 46 EQS = GE
Funny thing is, under the new all fare class EQS rules for next year (2005), I would have re-qualified for PE this year as I flew over 100 total segments. However, since NWA decided to go head-to-head with Indy Air in my market this fall, all my formerly cherished B-fares disappeared from the lowest-available category and I ended up flying on cheap K and M fares for the past few months. Yeah, fly just as much as last year and drop a level anyway. I'm certainly not laughing now.
Any chance NWA would consider extending my PE status next year under the new 2005 WP rules?
(I didn't think so.
I guess I'll have to live with GE status for most of next year until I re-qual PE by reaching 100 total seqments again.)
2003: 62K EQM, 62 EQS = PE
2004: 62K EQM, 46 EQS = GE
Funny thing is, under the new all fare class EQS rules for next year (2005), I would have re-qualified for PE this year as I flew over 100 total segments. However, since NWA decided to go head-to-head with Indy Air in my market this fall, all my formerly cherished B-fares disappeared from the lowest-available category and I ended up flying on cheap K and M fares for the past few months. Yeah, fly just as much as last year and drop a level anyway. I'm certainly not laughing now.
Any chance NWA would consider extending my PE status next year under the new 2005 WP rules?
(I didn't think so.
I guess I'll have to live with GE status for most of next year until I re-qual PE by reaching 100 total seqments again.)
#147
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Only Delta Silver I'm trying to stay at home more :) Hilton Diamond, Starwood Gold
Posts: 274
EQM on Delta?
Okwould someone please clarify this for me.do we earn any EQMs when flying on Delta?..... has this, in fact, changed once again?....on Delta it was 50% EQM's....then 100% EQM's...then 50% EQM's...is it now at zero EQM's??.....
#148
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: MSP
Programs: Skyteam, *A, 1W
Posts: 650
Originally Posted by mspguy
Okwould someone please clarify this for me.do we earn any EQMs when flying on Delta?..... has this, in fact, changed once again?....on Delta it was 50% EQM's....then 100% EQM's...then 50% EQM's...is it now at zero EQM's??.....
However, you will NOT earn EQS on DL flights.
#149


Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 8,687
Originally Posted by mspguy
Okwould someone please clarify this for me.do we earn any EQMs when flying on Delta?..... has this, in fact, changed once again?....on Delta it was 50% EQM's....then 100% EQM's...then 50% EQM's...is it now at zero EQM's??.....
#150

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Detroit
Programs: Delta, Marriott, Hilton
Posts: 181
I fly all short flights usually on nonB/Y tickets so the changes are good for me. Hard to qualify by EQM when you only get 1000 per week of flying. I'll probably be close to 100 segments though since I fly at least twice a week.

