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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 11:08 pm
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Question CO:Restricted travel dates will not apply to reward travel requests made in 2005

At Continental's website, there is a small statement which I thought was interesting immediately after the listing of restricted blackout dates on award travel......

Restricted travel dates will not apply to reward travel requests made January 1, 2005 and beyond.
Perhaps they are making improvement to its Onepass program, by getting rid of blackout dates, but I think otherwise. I'm thinking there might be award level alignment, similar to NW brewing at CO..... I guess I won't know until January 1.

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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jiburi
At Continental's website, there is a small statement which I thought was interesting immediately after the listing of restricted blackout dates on award travel......



Perhaps they are making improvement to its Onepass program, by getting rid of blackout dates, but I think otherwise. I'm thinking there might be award level alignment, similar to NW brewing at CO..... I guess I won't know until January 1.

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Blackouts are not the problem for me at CO. You cannot get standard award availability and so everything is double miles nearly all the time.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 1:34 pm
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Is there any news if the changes in the 2005 NWA program will also be effective for KLM? If so, I better switch back (I'm a dual Dutch-American citizen )
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 2:19 pm
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Thumbs up Happy with the Status Quo

I used to shudder whenever Delta sent out its "changes" each year! Man, am I ever glad that I switched back to NW!!! I'm only 17,000 miles away from my 2MM-er level. Status Quo is GREAT!

Originally Posted by u2andpj
Here's the interesting part:

All paid fare classes eligible to earn WorldPerks miles on Northwest or any of our Elite Qualifying Airline Partners (Continental Airlines flights in Q, I, S, W, T, X, L classes; Delta Air Lines operated flights are excluded) to count towards your Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS) for the 2006 program year! Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) required to achieve Elite status will remain the same as in 2004.


2005 changes


award travel changes
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 5:08 pm
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Any changes for travel from North to South asia on MH ?

I can't find any changes in the biz class award level for travel from North to South Asia from the current 30K level ? I'm thinking of travelling on MH sometime in 2006. Thanks !
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by sunil
I can't find any changes in the biz class award level for travel from North to South Asia from the current 30K level ? I'm thinking of travelling on MH sometime in 2006. Thanks !
Bump. I tried calling NW WP, but was unable to get a clear answer.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 5:24 pm
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I have sent the following message to NWA thru https://www.nwa.com/talk/ttu.html, I encourage everyone to express their disappointment with this new program to NWA.
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Dear NWA,

As a frequent NWA flyer and a NWA Silver Elite member for a few years, I would like to express my disappointment and disbelieve about the WorldPerks 2005 revisions which can be found at http://www.nwa.com/features/awdchgs. My primary reason for flying NWA and its Skyteam partners is to collect miles for award travel to Europe. This used to be 50.000 miles but is 80.000 miles under the new program, an increase of 30.000 miles (60%!). This is not getting compensated in any way by the new all paid fare classes are eligible to earn WorldPerks miles update.

I will certainly consider my airline options next year, including the use of my WorldPerks Visa Credit Card if NWA actually implements this new program.

Thanks,
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 9:54 pm
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Qantas And United

It's likely that United will be revising award charts, as oneworld QANTAS just announced award level changes.

based from tinkybelle posting,
bus award SYD-HNL is now 160k but will be 144K
bus award SYD-LAX up from 160K to 192K.
bus award SYD-sin up from 100K to 120K
first award SYD-JFK up from 200K to 384K

Upgrade policy are also changing with cheap fares no longer qualifying for upgrades.

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jiburi
It's likely that United will be revising award charts, as oneworld QANTAS just announced award level changes.

based from tinkybelle posting,
bus award SYD-HNL is now 160k but will be 144K
bus award SYD-LAX up from 160K to 192K.
bus award SYD-sin up from 100K to 120K
first award SYD-JFK up from 200K to 384K

Upgrade policy are also changing with cheap fares no longer qualifying for upgrades.

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if true, this makes my decision to stick with jl, in spite of the 70% accrual, easier. when miles cease to have any meaning, my priorties shift towards convenience, lack of change fees, and civilized service. as for domestic us flights, i've found that hp is pretty good (insofar as my travel patterns are concerned); i use wn for the rest and don't really bother with ff matters.

however, i've decided to put a considerable chunk of my transpacs on ua because, as of now, mp kicks butt and E+ is a pretty good product. if i fly nw, i think i'll just credit to hp.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 9:40 pm
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I hear a lot of rumbling about mileage devaluation, but what really burns me is the new EQS policy for 2005. To explain why, here are my stats:

2003: 62K EQM, 62 EQS = PE
2004: 62K EQM, 46 EQS = GE

Funny thing is, under the new all fare class EQS rules for next year (2005), I would have re-qualified for PE this year as I flew over 100 total segments. However, since NWA decided to go head-to-head with Indy Air in my market this fall, all my formerly cherished B-fares disappeared from the lowest-available category and I ended up flying on cheap K and M fares for the past few months. Yeah, fly just as much as last year and drop a level anyway. I'm certainly not laughing now.

Any chance NWA would consider extending my PE status next year under the new 2005 WP rules?

(I didn't think so. I guess I'll have to live with GE status for most of next year until I re-qual PE by reaching 100 total seqments again.)
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:12 pm
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Originally Posted by dmitzel
I hear a lot of rumbling about mileage devaluation, but what really burns me is the new EQS policy for 2005. To explain why, here are my stats:

2003: 62K EQM, 62 EQS = PE
2004: 62K EQM, 46 EQS = GE

Funny thing is, under the new all fare class EQS rules for next year (2005), I would have re-qualified for PE this year as I flew over 100 total segments. However, since NWA decided to go head-to-head with Indy Air in my market this fall, all my formerly cherished B-fares disappeared from the lowest-available category and I ended up flying on cheap K and M fares for the past few months. Yeah, fly just as much as last year and drop a level anyway. I'm certainly not laughing now.

Any chance NWA would consider extending my PE status next year under the new 2005 WP rules?

(I didn't think so. I guess I'll have to live with GE status for most of next year until I re-qual PE by reaching 100 total seqments again.)
Or do 13,000 in mileage runs between now and 12/31
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:38 pm
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EQM on Delta?

Okwould someone please clarify this for me.do we earn any EQMs when flying on Delta?..... has this, in fact, changed once again?....on Delta it was 50% EQM's....then 100% EQM's...then 50% EQM's...is it now at zero EQM's??.....
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by mspguy
Okwould someone please clarify this for me.do we earn any EQMs when flying on Delta?..... has this, in fact, changed once again?....on Delta it was 50% EQM's....then 100% EQM's...then 50% EQM's...is it now at zero EQM's??.....
You WILL earn EQM on DL. Whether it's 150%, 100% or 50% EQM, it depends on your fare class.
However, you will NOT earn EQS on DL flights.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by mspguy
Okwould someone please clarify this for me.do we earn any EQMs when flying on Delta?..... has this, in fact, changed once again?....on Delta it was 50% EQM's....then 100% EQM's...then 50% EQM's...is it now at zero EQM's??.....
http://www.nwa.com/freqfly/earn/airfl.shtml#delta
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:35 pm
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I fly all short flights usually on nonB/Y tickets so the changes are good for me. Hard to qualify by EQM when you only get 1000 per week of flying. I'll probably be close to 100 segments though since I fly at least twice a week.
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